Neither of which is a crime in the USA, regardless of Hansen's or your wishes.

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C'mon, I remember talk of impeachment when one of your presidents misinformed the American public about a certain relationship involving a cigar and a woman.

See if you can remember if anyone is guilty of a crime. That would be helpful. Your continued insistence that misinformation and/or disagreement be a crime here, makes me very thankful that our legislators have more respect for free speech than you.

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Oh, that's easy. All I have to do is to find someone who's been sentenced for a con-job. Or easier yet, one who committed perjury (aka. willfully making false statements in a court of law, aka. misinforming a judicial proceeding).

Instead of using time visiting a library or scouring the internet for it (I'm sure there are plenty of cases), let me ask you about impeachment and misinformation in another manner. Say that George W. Bush is impeached due to the circumstances that lead to the invasion of Iraq.

Would George W. Bush,
1. be acquitted if he acted in good faith, whether or not he was misinformed himself, or,
2. be acquitted if he willfully made use of false information?

*sigh* Try to focus. Is anyone guilty of a crime in the Clinton impeachment (the comment you made to which my question is directed)?

(I noticed it took some time for you to figure how to further obfuscate, though; but fear not, I will try my best to keep your focus. )

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Try not to dodge, please. I address what you say so I would appreciate that you address what I say, as well. Answer the question as it has been asked, please.

The time that went by before my reply was due to my lunch break. I had a healthy meal of 3 pieces of well-made smørgås. Thank you for your concern.

As I keep repeating the same question to you with no answer, your claim of my dodging is quite humorous. Here's the question again: Is anyone guilty of a crime in the Clinton impeachment (the comment you made to which my question is directed)?

It seems to be quite difficult for you to answer any question. Let's see if your MO continues.

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Oh darn. By saying "See if you can remember if anyone is guilty of a crime", you didn't mean "anyone" in general guilty of a crime due to misinformation? You meant "anyone" specifically involved in an impeachment of Clinton??? Sorry, I didn't make that connection.

I had no idea that he was ever actually impeached. I only remember there was talk about it. So no, I don't know if anyone was guilty of a crime. But if he was actually impeached then it should certainly tell you something about the legal implication of misinformation, no?

[Emphasis mine] There's an answer. You don't know.

OK, then we'll deal with the situation of your ignorance on the impeachment/cigar/yada-yada issue. No one was convicted of a crime.

Thus, your comment, "C'mon, I remember talk of impeachment when one of your presidents misinformed the American public about a certain relationship involving a cigar and a woman", is irrelevant to my statement that misinformation and/or disagreement is not a crime in the USA, regardless of your or Hansen's wishes.

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LOL Not being found guilty of an offense does not change the legal status of the offense. If you're impeached due to a case of misinformation then that particular case of misinformation is a legal offense whether or not anyone is found guilty of it.

It's as relevant as saying that killing O.J.'s wife is against the law even if no one has been found guilty, yet.


Now that I found my way through your posts can you please address my post of perjury indictment and a potential impeachment of G. W. Bush (even if he should have already been impeached without my knowledge).

Si Modo, in the meanwhile I can inform you that I will log off of USPOL in order to get some work done. So for the sake of your track record, that will be the reason why I may not reply instantly. Thank you.

Ummmmm, what?

No one was convicted of a crime.

Perhaps you and Hansen' can form your own totalitarian state where all must say what you two want them to say or face criminal charges.

"High crimes against humanity and nature" - that IS funny. Hansen is quite a fool.

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Your point being what? Does that somehow not make him an expert in the field of Atmospheric Physics?

How does that have any bearing on science?

No, people who claim that there is a scientific consensus are the ones misleading people. They seek to label anyone who disagrees with their findings as being "fringe". Stances like that make a mockery of science.

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How can someone ever be convicted of a crime if it takes a conviction to make something a crime in the first place? That's not exactly how things work, Si modo. Actually, it's how things wouldn't be able to work.

If said information is merely propaganda then yes, that should be considered criminal.

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