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06-26-2008
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06-28-2008
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06-28-2008
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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition Last edited by Si modo; 06-28-2008 at 06:41 PM.
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06-28-2008
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I've not found anything similar for other parts of the world, but there's no reason to expect it would be remarkably different...
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06-28-2008
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You will be able to swim at the North Pole this summer, but some town recorded a high temperature in 1912 so that balances it out.
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06-28-2008
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06-28-2008
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My position is that there are many really significant environmental issues that need to be addressed, some have to do with climate some do not. It's often hard for scientists to get the message across to the people who need to listen and be aware but all through the environmental movement over the past 30-40 years nothing has moved people like climate change talk whether they agree with it or disagree with it. It seems now the climate change movement is the flagship for all environmental issues. If people need proof that human development is linked with every type of environmental problem out there then take the whole tarmac paradox for example; long term temperature monitoring may be skewed by the fact that developed areas absorb more heat. There is much more information about industrialization and urban sprawl that can be gleaned from lack of ability to make accurate assumptions about climate.
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06-29-2008
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Re: Extreme weather to increase with climate change
People are just afraid. Some who are afraid want to try to stop the damage before it's too late. Others who are afraid just deny it's happening.
Either way, we have 380 parts per million of carbon in the atmosphere. 350 is the tipping point. We were there about 10 years ago. If we don't get back to 350 soon, we won't be able to stop the harm. America cannot turn the tide without the rest of the world, but the rest of the world can't do it without America on board. It's long past time our country took this seriously and started making some changes.
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07-02-2008
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Our climate changes all the time. We have 4 seasons that prove it. The debate is: Is it man that is at fault for climate change, or now the hysteria over global warming? My problem is--that man has only been recording daily weather conditions for the last 150 or so years. Our planet is millions of years old--according to science. Yet--the global warming scientists base their global warming stats on a very minut amount of known intelligence regarding global cooling & warming periods. We know we came out of an ice age, & the globe warmed. Man had nothing to do with that. I don't believe man can stop hurricanes, tornadoes, or the snow from falling, or control heavy rains or drought periods. With the lack of knowledge of what the climate was like from just 200 years ago, it's a little hard to put all this faith into the reasons for global warming today. Other than it is a natural part of the ever changing planet earth. Who knows, in 10 years we may undergo a cooling period--& get hysterical over that too? Last edited by Oreo; 07-02-2008 at 08:50 PM.
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07-03-2008
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Spend some time in some of the world's less developed countries, and you'll quickly realize that it won't happen any time soon...
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07-03-2008
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So I don't think that 35 datapoints is enough to cast doubt on the amount of data that seems to indicate AGW is actually taking place.
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“The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine.” Senator Thad Cochran, Mississippi (R) on McCain “I decided I didn’t want this guy anywhere near a trigger.” Senator Pete Domenici, New Mexico (R) on McCain “My anger did not help my campaign ... People don’t like angry candidates very much.” McCain on McCain
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07-03-2008
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But I appreciate your candor...
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07-03-2008
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You know seriously, everyone needs to sand back for a minute, imagine if you will, looking a the timeline on the floor in a large building or out doors where you have enough space and clear your head, totally outside yourself, at least try and drop pre conceived judgments, and start at say 1950's and there after as on a number line add in all the forecasted environmental/ecological scares/events that took place and where all supposed, at the time, to be the real deal...... Its staggering AND informative, the take away from this is I believe is- there is NO consensus, nor has there ever been nor shall there be when it comes to making predictions on a scale as huge as this as every 25-30 years the event(s) being prognosticated in fact changes....in 20 years, we will look back at this and there will be another marker on the line that says the “ gore GW binge”...the only question left is what then will be the flavor of the decade and how badly will we have damaged ourselves following the unproven and emotionally suspect advent of the latest fad. ?
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07-03-2008
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07-03-2008
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I seem to remember him displaying this concept of time in his Cosmos series, or maybe it was some other program. It went something like: Lay out the history of the Earth on a long timeline, say the length of a football field. If the planet was created at one goal line, mankind didn't come along until the last half inch before the opposite goal line. The concept of very long lengths of time can be hard for people to grasp. Segan had a great knack for simple analogies that made things easier to understand.
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