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Re: Compressed air car coming with 2010 with 1,000 mile range!

impressive....but at 18K? Thats a bigger rip off than the Prius..... so uhmmm, where will the electricity come from to power the compressor?


yea...okay.
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Re: Compressed air car coming with 2010 with 1,000 mile range!

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Yes, but the gasoline 'worst case' requires damage sufficient to cause a rupture and then an additional ignition. In the case of compressed air, once the tank is damaged, the contents actively contribute to a rupture, and there's no additonal ignition required to get your 'worst case'.


Astonishing is an understatement! That would be the infinte motion machine that science has been trying to find for hundreds of years! (And long since determined to be impossible, btw.)
Off the top, my guess is that they would use the gasoline that it does consume to compress the air, or some such thing. I doubt anyone is proposing perfect conservation of energy in useful form.
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Re: Compressed air car coming with 2010 with 1,000 mile range!

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Astonishing is an understatement! That would be the infinte motion machine that science has been trying to find for hundreds of years! (And long since determined to be impossible, btw.)
It still is impossible. There is no free lunch...

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Re: Compressed air car coming with 2010 with 1,000 mile range!

With my five hundred miles a day, I certainly hope I'll be able to pick one up.
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Re: Compressed air car coming with 2010 with 1,000 mile range!

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there is not sufficient airflow everywhere to use wind. we're basically talking about replacing oil for electricity and the best reliable supply of that is nuke. or you could use the clean and abundant coal from out west as opposed to the high sulfer coal RObbie Byrd forces power comanies to use.
Well, in the US there would be the simple solution of solar-thermal electricity production...

The technology is available since the 80s and the US is blessed with some huge desert areas.

In Spain they are building 3 of those... each with 50MW... very simple and effective technology. (for comparison... Nuclear Powerplants usually have about 1000-1500 MW electricity production)

What you should not forget is, that besides incredible high construction costs, Nuclear Power plants ALSO are consuming fuel... Uranium is not free and with several nations going extensivly nuclear (for example China) the price for Uranium will not go down I suppose.... same for coal... Soon mining in Germany could even become profitable again! (at the moment, highly subsidized)

Wind Power has a really high potential... so does Solar-Thermal energy... it is widly underestimated...

We got alot of windpower in Germany, but overall it's just 20.000 wind mills... that's incredibly few!
Now there is alot of "old shit" among those... but it is covering about 7.5% of the German electricity consumption... several states even cover more than 30% of the electricity consumption using windpower...

Modern Windpower plants have an output of 5MW each (6MW is the most at the moment)

There are quite some areas where there is steady wind... especially offshore or at the coastlines (US has enough) and especially at over 100 meters above the ground..

Considering the fact that even offshore windpower plants produce the energery that was required to build,transport and put them up in about 5 month, they are the greenest and best developed technology currently available.
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