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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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Thank you Captain.

Well, he is the grand poohbah of their religion. If you cannot laugh at their priest what fun is there.
The funniest part is that he and his disciples take themselves seriously. They really believe this crap and march and yell and caper like mad bears saying; "Don't confuse me with the truth."

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Oh its not a complete waste. I get to practice my debating skills against entrenched sycophants who refuse to accept any rational argument no matter how clearly stated. Who knows, may be a lurker or two will be swayed to dig a little deeper from these words?
Maybe one or two.

I DO think you'll grow tired of practicing your "debating skills against entrenched sycophants who refuse to accept any rational argument no matter how clearly stated."

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I do enjoy a good debate with someone who wont budge. Unfortunately I have only met a couple who fit that bill. For the brainwashed, they have their place and purpose. I believe it was Stalin who called them "useful idiots."

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Yes, useful idiots are STILL in no short supply.

Unfortunately.
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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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As you said above, we should do what we can for the environment based on our current knowledge. The information we have currently tends to indicate that CO2 may not be the greater driver of temperature that the Algoreans claim it is and enacting draconian restrictions on CO2 emissions may have no real or measureable effect on global temperatures.

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If the assertions you've made are true then I wonder why it is that The American Physical Society hasn't changed it's position on global warming?
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If the assertions you've made are true then I wonder why it is that The American Physical Society hasn't changed it's position on global warming?
How is it that you conflate "an extent to which CO2 contributes" with "CO2 contributes"? It doesn't take any scientific skills to differentiate the two phrases.
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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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How is it that you conflate "an extent to which CO2 contributes" with "CO2 contributes"? It doesn't take any scientific skills to differentiate the two phrases.
Did I?
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Did I?
Then let's go back: Let us know the reason you ask Mahasattva why the APS changed nothing of its position since 2007 and why that question is relevant to the txt of Mahasattva's text you quoted.

See, I never developed my abilty to read minds, so the onus is on you to be clear. For clarification, let us know what you think the relevance of your question is. Do some effective communication.
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Then let's go back: Let us know the reason you ask Mahasattva why the APS changed nothing of its position since 2007 and why that question is relevant to the txt of Mahasattva's text you quoted.

See, I never developed my abilty to read minds, so the onus is on you to be clear. For clarification, let us know what you think the relevance of your question is. Do some effective communication.
You're not paying attention. One of the assertions he's made in this thread is that there's no need to reduce CO emissions, which is at odds with this portion of the APS policy re climate change:

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The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now.

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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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You're not paying attention. One of the assertions he's made in this thread is that there's no need to reduce CO emissions, which is at odds with this portion of the APS policy re climate change:
I see your panties are in a twist as I asked you to clarify a question you asked.

Does the APS' opinion on policy carry more weight with you than another scientific society's? Sorry for asking another question - it seems so threatening to you.
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I see your panties are in a twist as I asked you to clarify a question you asked.

Does the APS' opinion on policy carry more weight with you than another scientific society's. Sorry for asking another question - it seems so threatening to you.
I only mentioned the APS on account of the thread that Kramer started, and no, I wouldn't say that they are more or less credible than other scientific societies.
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I only mentioned the APS on account of the thread that Kramer started, and no, I wouldn't say that they are more or less credible than other scientific societies.
OK, I guess that finally clarifies its relevance.
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OK, I guess that finally clarifies its relevance.
Really?
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Really?
Are you surprised that you were clear?
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Are you surprised that you were clear?
I just fail to see how my answer could be an adequate basis for determining the APS's relevance to this debate. I would think that that would have to do with it's expertise re climate and it's integrity.
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I just fail to see how my answer could be an adequate basis for determining the APS's relevance to this debate....
Uh huh. But my question was the relevance of your question. You clarified and you were and still are surprised that you were clear. Interesting.
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I consider the "peak oil" theory with a little suspicion. Every time someone promotes the idea they soon have to rework the numbers as more reserves are found. When we do run out of oil it will be decades if not hundreds of years from now. How are you going to insure that we avoid coal? Ban its use. A wise approach would be to use clean coal technology so we can still benefit from a cheap energy source will limiting its harmful effects. CO 2 is not a harmful effect.
You seem to have no understanding of it at all. It isn't about "running out" of oil, it's about passing the point of peak production, from which point production begins to decline.

Please cite the discovery of any oil fields in the last 20 years that are appr. the size of Ghawar. Oh shoot, I'll answer for you. None. So when Ghawar goes offline, and it will in the near future as it's an old field and they've been pumping it full of water to maintain maximum production, which shortens the lifespan considerably, we won't be able to replace that production and the shortfall will be catastrophic.

So even though we continue to find some oil here and there, we are nowhere near to making up for the declining production of existing fields. That you think Peak Oil has to be reworked every time some oil is found shows that you don't get it.
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Re: A list of those who do not accept the AGW dogma.

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I hope you'll reconsider, TS. I know it's tedious but you provide a valuable service to the board by breaking down his dissembling.
I don't know... Reading through and checking the info provided... it looks like TSG has got his ass kicked in this thread.
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