And one scheme under consideration by the UN will do just that based on our RCI's (Responsibility and Capability Indicator) if it's implemented. They talk about using it to reduce income disparities among nations and within nations.

And this is mostly what AGW is about... Controlling and distributing resources in an equitable manner, reducing the disparities in GDP's and standard of living among nations, reducing income disparities within nations, controlling the economy by controlling carbon... It's nothing more than a massive socialist scheme on a global scale.

Professor Carroll Quigley was right when he published his book in the mid-60's.

There is a very good chance AGW isn't the main reason for the recent warming.

Kramer

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“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.”

TheNation, June 7, 2007

Okay thats a good thing. Those with more have a greater responsibility to those who have less.

No being against global warming is being against the increase of greenhouse gasses destroying our climate and turning earth into a barren wasteland. Climate change making our weather more chaotic and dispruptive to modern life. The redistribution of resources is just a fringe benefit of saving the earth.

Well those are both things that need to be controlled for the good of humanity. Keep up the good work all the heros that are fighting against the forces of darkness and evil. (aka greed and ignorance)

And there are incredibly good resources, information and statistics that say that humanity has caused dangerous climate changes.

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They are not only loaning US money, they are also ditching $...

Unless your a recent appointee to the Obama admin...

What are you saying, that positive feedback will make the earth heat up and end up like Venus?

I believe the redistribution of resources might be one of the main reasons for AGW.

They certainly will be shown to be ignorant if they let the greens get their way.

This is what the summary says:
“Most of the observed increase in global average temperatures since the mid-20th century is very likely due to the observed increase in anthropogenic greenhouse gas concentrations.”

That's why there is a one in ten chance that they are wrong.

Kramer

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“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.”

TheNation, June 7, 2007

That is the essential point of a runaway greenhouse that will result from uncontrolled greehouse gases. One of the reasons they are called greenhouse gasses.

Actually they will be shown to be more ignorant and greedy and as evil as the other capitalist scum and climate change deniers when the climate has changed to the point of no return and all life on earth is disrupted beyond hope. Of course we'll all be dead or too worried about surviving with the depleted fresh water and no oil so it wont really matter

And I believe its just one of the fringe benefits. Sort of a unintended positive result.

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“If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of
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– George W. Bush in Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000

There is very little chance we'd ever go into a Venus state.

From realclimate:
And if you disagree with the above, consider that the earth's CO2 levels millions of years ago were 4x to 18x higher (depending on which source you use) and we never reached a Venus like state. And even more telling, those CO2 levels fluctuated such that (for the most part) when they were low, temps were higher and when they were high, temps were lower.

You can also take a look at ice core graphs of temp and CO2. What you'll find out is that the temp starts rising hundreds of years before CO2 starts rising. And the temperature starts dropping hundreds of years before the CO2 starts dropping even though the CO2 with it's awesome warming power is much higher. This indicates that there could be something more powerful driving the global temperature than a trace gas.


How many enviro gloom-and-doom scenarios have come true so far and how many haven't? I think you'll find that most haven't come true.

And since you hate capitalists, what kind of government should be we under and how should be 'adjust' our lives so that we aren't screwing up the earth?

Kramer

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“We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.”

TheNation, June 7, 2007

Not every hypothosis put forward has panned out the way it was thought it would be given the data that was available at the time. As more research and more data becomes available it becomes more clear that humanity is changing the climate and not for the better. There are multiple agencies, scientist groups, climatologists, quite a few other educated people who agree with this conclusion. Just because the sky hasnt fallen and the world hasnt been destroyed yet does not mean that people should live irresponsibly or in a manner unfriendly to the environment. It is the responsibility of every responsible human on the planet to do their part to reduce their carbon footprint, and environmental impact to the minimum they can. Ther Goddess gives us the gift of each and every day on thsi world and how does humanity repay her? We pollute and destroy and create more filth and trash and shit int he nest like idiots each and every day.

Well a strong centralized government that places the needs of the many first. That takes a holistic view of society and the earth. Call it communist, call it socialist it would have elements of both. People would place profits and pollution and all the other negatives much much lower.

As for what can be done. Increase mass transit, increase green alternatives. Solar power, wind power, make reduce, reuse, recycle mandatory. reduce useless consumption of wasteful materials. Make companies that use wasteful packaging pay through the bloody nose. Live a simpler more fulfilling and less greedy selfish and disgusting life.

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“If this were a dictatorship, it’d be a heck of
a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator.”

– George W. Bush in Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2000