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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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The histeria of global warming is the best thing that has ever happend to tree hugging liberals in cluding the scientist who exploit it to spread panic and fear.
That's the only line you've memorized?
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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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problem solved, it stopped warming years ago, starting to cool a bit.

oddly enough in line with solar activity...
Evidence, because from what I'm seeing right now is that Britian is experiencing its first ever heatwave and that the rising temptretures in Europe are exactly in line with scientific predictions about global warming. In fact, from data I've seen the whole model is exactly as predicted.
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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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Evidence, because from what I'm seeing right now is that Britian is experiencing its first ever heatwave and that the rising temptretures in Europe are exactly in line with scientific predictions about global warming. In fact, from data I've seen the whole model is exactly as predicted.
Indeed, the last few years in Britain have been hotter and more humid than ever.
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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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Evidence, because from what I'm seeing right now is that Britian is experiencing its first ever heatwave and that the rising temptretures in Europe are exactly in line with scientific predictions about global warming. In fact, from data I've seen the whole model is exactly as predicted.

remember its GLOBAL warming, not British Warming. its notably cooler in the US but that's not th epoint.

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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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remember its GLOBAL warming, not British Warming. its notably cooler in the US but that's not th epoint.

here
It might be good to understand exactly what global warming theory is predicting before claiming it is debunked. Just a thought.
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Old 07-02-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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A canard is defined as a "deliberately misleading fabrication".... you are suggesting that the scientific community has uncovered some sort of evidence of a vast conspiracy of climate scientists going on for over 100 years?

Wow...

How's that tin foil hat fit Chucky?

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No, I'm telling you that global warming is a deliberately misleading fabrication.

Thought I was pretty clear about that.
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Re: Global warming debunked

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remember its GLOBAL warming, not British Warming. its notably cooler in the US but that's not th epoint.

here
I know this might sound an odd comment but the general trend on all those graphs which show a time period of over 4 years show a general upward trend. One big drop in the last year does not a summer make. Look at the HadCRUT graph and the GISS graph, both show significant general warming. The GISS graph, which runs back to 1900 shows that this year was no colder than 2000 and is a huge anomoly/drop and is no lower than the average tempreture in the 1980's.
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Old 07-03-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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No, I'm telling you that global warming is a deliberately misleading fabrication.

Thought I was pretty clear about that.
No, you were not clear about it at all. It was a tiny little post with absolutely no info to back up your ridiculous claim. It just sounds like some wild conspiracy theory on your part....

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No, you were not clear about it at all. It was a tiny little post with absolutely no info to back up your ridiculous claim. It just sounds like some wild conspiracy theory on your part....

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Re: Global warming debunked

global warming is happening but the reaction is out of scale with the amount of warming. 6/10 of a degree Cecilius a century last I read. So if it's usually 30 degrees C during the summer in 300 years it's going to be 31.8 degrees C during the summer.
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Re: Global warming debunked

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No, I'm telling you that global warming is a deliberately misleading fabrication.

Thought I was pretty clear about that.
Just like the theory of Evolution, or the Theory of Gravity?
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Old 07-04-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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global warming is happening but the reaction is out of scale with the amount of warming. 6/10 of a degree Cecilius a century last I read. So if it's usually 30 degrees C during the summer in 300 years it's going to be 31.8 degrees C during the summer.
Thats not the predictions I've heard the MET Office (UK) has predicted between 2-6C warming around the globe in the next 100 years, they don't think we can keep it under 3C though. Thats a huge, huge change, especally in the more finely balanced areas of the world where just a 1 or 2C change is enough to cause catastrophy.
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Re: Global warming debunked

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Thats not the predictions I've heard the MET Office (UK) has predicted between 2-6C warming around the globe in the next 100 years, they don't think we can keep it under 3C though. Thats a huge, huge change, especally in the more finely balanced areas of the world where just a 1 or 2C change is enough to cause catastrophy.
Different sources have different predictions. There will certainly be local catastrophes, flooding and changes in water supply, it will not be the end of civilization or life on the planet.
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Re: Global warming debunked

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Different sources have different predictions. There will certainly be local catastrophes, flooding and changes in water supply, it will not be the end of civilization or life on the planet.
Certainly not of life on this planet, but a 6C rise would be very hard for us to contend with and cause one hell of a crisis.
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Old 07-04-2009
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Re: Global warming debunked

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Certainly not of life on this planet, but a 6C rise would be very hard for us to contend with and cause one hell of a crisis.
That's really a top end figure. If the Co2 level reach double 19th century levels that means it'd be 1.5 to 5 C warmer then it is now. So far the atmosphere is about 35% higher in CO2 then it was in the 19th century.

as a note and humorous aside: if my local area was 6c warmer over the past month then it actually was, the weather would have actually been seasonally typical.
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