Who could possibly think this was a good idea?



Text reads - The tsunami killed 100 times more people than 9/11. The planet is brutally powerful. Respect it. Preserve it.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

The WWF condemned this ad.

WWF condemns 'offensive' ad with its logo

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Apparently, a Brazilian advertising agency thought it would be a good idea, and created it and submitted it to the WWF unsolicited. The WWF rejected it as soon as they saw it, and the folks responsible for the ad got the sack.

World Wildlife Fund 'appalled' by tasteless 9/11 terror ad

I've donated to the WWF in the past, and I was getting ready to contact them and express my displeasure. It seems, though, that the WWF is just a victim of some ad agency's stupidity here.

Matt

My bad. Topic changed. Interestingly this ad won an award.

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"To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

-Thomas Jefferson

I can certainly see how people directly effected by 9/11 would find this tasteless, however, there is a deeper point here. Climate change kills people on a magnitude far greater than any terrorist attack, yet we don't react with the type of outrage that something like 9/11 brings out in poeple. Im not suggesting that outrage is not a appropriate as a response to 9/11, I'm only suggesting that there is a lack of outrage at the amount of suffering caused by degradation of our environment, the direct suffering caused by resource extraction, and the suffering we know is in the hopper for our children.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

is there some sort of counter for those people killed by "climate change" ?

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

There are estimates put out by the UN, and those are in the hundreds of thousands annually. I recognize though that there are problems making a tally of that sort. But it is undeniable that pollution, drought, heat waves, many cancers, etc cause death in the thousands globally on an annual basis.

Just look at smog and the thousands killed by that just in north america alone.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

smog is not a result of "climate change". not to sure any of the things you list are either.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Smog is not a result of climate change but it is anthropogenic nonetheless. The point remains that our outrage is often narrowly conceived, and very selective.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

no question that smog is a result of man-made emissions trapped by natural air flows. sorry but I thought it w3as necessary to call into question the "climate change" impact you alluded to. pollution is bad, I have no trouble signing onto that.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

That's ok. I accept that some people are just not convinced that AGW is real and effecting us at present.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

it may or may not be my friend, but when you make the claim that its actually killing people, thats a line that draws my attention.

for an ultra hard core conservative, I'm something of a tree hugger as well (I appreciate that this is sort of a disconnect for some). I have been for decades and i do not see that changing.

I await evidence I can believe in that "climate change" is an actual problem and ot some sort of form of natural ebb and flow but I have not seen that as yet. I have seen that we are buggering ourselves with deforestation and needless polution but I have also seem that we have worked very hard to reduce the effects of manufacturing (in this country) on the overall problem.

I hope you can appreciate we both have simalar goals even if we differ on some particulars. I want a cleaner planet and I believe you do too.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

I appreciate everything you said.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

cool. we have an uphill battle, God help us get things turned around.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand