**sigh** Yes it is. Who told you that nonsense?

There are other mechanisms by which global temps increase or decrease besides CO2.

Particulate matter in the atmosphere also has a cooling effect. Volcanoes. La Nina, Atlantic ocean currents, solar irradiance, and the earths eccentric orbit about the sun all play a role.

The other issue is lag. C02 heats up the atmosphere relatively instantly, but the oceans take a very long time to heat up. Ocean temps are one of the major drivers of global climate.

Its not really a matter of opinion.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

I had no idea that economics was governed by physics and chemistry... who knew??

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Ah, but are there other mechanisms by which the climate changes that are not driven by human actions?

The absence of GW must be like religion. All you need is a little faith to be empowered to ignore undisputable facts.

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Yes. However, according to the science as it is at this moment, none of those mechanisms are currently in play that would cause the warming that we currently experience.

The other very important point to note here is that of all the previous episodes of global climate change in the paleoclimate record manifested themselves slowly over thousands of years through natural processes. (and i emphasize global here so as not to be confused with regional)

The global climate change we are experiencing right now is unprecedented in its speed. The reason for this is because not only are we pumping tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere that was not formerly part of the carbon cycle, we are actively destroying the two major carbon sinks on the planet, forests and oceans.

We are not giving the system the time or space to correct itself.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Not unlike holocaust deniers or creationists in that regard.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Regardless of any correlations in the data we see CO2 levels cycle up and down, up and down over the ages. Now man contributes enough CO2 on the top that we will never see a downward trend in CO2 greenhouse gases as long as we continue to emit green house gas pollutants at such an astounding unprecedented rate.

I fail to understand why anyone believes this will have no effect.

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we're not talking about economics, we're talking about making money.

and Coca-Cola (among others) knew

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Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

nothng you present is indisputable. thats kind of the problem you have.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Personally I'm not convinced human caused global warming (where humans are the main contributor) is real. However, its a bit reckless to assume that everything is A-ok to continue deforesting the planet and burning fossil fuels like there is no tomorrow.

Its like driving down the highway when you aren't sure what the speed limit is, so you figure what the hell, the speed limit must be 265 miles per hour and gun it.


How is using our planet's resources more efficiently and searching for more renewable forms of energy a bad thing?

Everything is disputable. You fail to dispute anything.

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I kind'a thought the Earth was a lot older than 2000 years.

You have to look at Her entire climate history, not just the spots that appeal to your argument for falling skies.

(and I'm still waiting to know what the average Earth temprature is supposd to be. Without knowing that, how can you say there is a problem?)

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Obama isn't change...

He's just a different kind of wrong!

tell Andy...

I'm comfortable letting the people studying this manage this. The ones not in the circle of self reviewing peers.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

In other words, the faithful who say their prayers to Exxon.

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and all the rest falling off the bandwagon.

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Socialism doesn't create a rising tide that lifts all boats. It drains the lake and teaches the boat riders not to help themselves by rowing.

Jesus loves you, allah wants you dead

"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand