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Old 10-13-2009
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Re: What happened to global warming ?
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and all the rest falling off the bandwagon.
lol. which is that? the bandwagon of facts?
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I'm comfortable letting the people studying this manage this. The ones not in the circle of self reviewing peers.
So then why do you only post articles from the people not studying it?

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I kind'a thought the Earth was a lot older than 2000 years.

You have to look at Her entire climate history, not just the spots that appeal to your argument for falling skies.
Are you suggesting that people who study paleo-climatology do not study the entire climate history of the earth?

In other words, the crucial aspect you are ignoring when you post that graph you are fond of is context.

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(and I'm still waiting to know what the average Earth temperature is supposd to be. Without knowing that, how can you say there is a problem?)
There is no absolute average temperature that the earth is supposed to be. There is however a narrow range of temperature in which life as we know it can survive.

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nothng you present is indisputable. thats kind of the problem you have.
Well yeah, when i'm only presenting cold hard facts it isn't really disputable. Its not really my problem that people seem to be only able to post junk science that is already debunked.

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we're not talking about economics, we're talking about making money.

and Coca-Cola (among others) knew
Perhaps you can clarify how you got to coca-cola from linear regression..... what the hell are you talking about?

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Well yeah, when i'm only presenting cold hard facts it isn't really disputable. Its not really my problem that people seem to be only able to post junk science that is already debunked.

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no, you present interpretations of selected facts which both sides of this passion play love to do. when I see these things I tend to believe neither.
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no, you present interpretations of selected facts which both sides of this passion play love to do. when I see these things I tend to believe neither.
No. You posted a link that said that the planet is cooling. That is factually wrong. I supported that with the facts.

Where exactly did I cloud it with an interpretation?

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Perhaps you can clarify how you got to coca-cola from linear regression..... what the hell are you talking about?

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I had no idea that economics was governed by physics and chemistry... who knew??
I pointed out that I had not been talking about economics but offered you another example of where people study these things to make a buck.
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No. You posted a link that said that the planet is cooling. That is factually wrong. I supported that with the facts.

Where exactly did I cloud it with an interpretation?

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take it up with the BBC, I dont care.
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take it up with the BBC, I dont care.
nice dodge.

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you said

I pointed out that I had not been talking about economics but offered you another example of where people study these things to make a buck.
so your argument is that its a conspiracy?

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I suspect that recent "cooling effects" (though It's been the most consistently F'n hot summer I can remember in 45 years of life) are due to the lull in the 11 year sun cycle and massive cooling due to the polar ice caps melting.

With the Earth continuing to warm under these conditions, I hate to think what will happen when the sun cycle goes into Hot mode and the Ice gaps are gone.


Polar ice caps melting faster than we thought | MNN - Mother Nature Network

NRDC: Global Warming Puts the Arctic on Thin Ice

Ray of hope: Can the sun save us from global warming? - Science, News - The Independent

The sun-climate question: Is there a real connection?


any thoughts at all?
Is there any physical evidence that would convince you that you are wrong?
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Is there any physical evidence that would convince you that you are wrong?
I haven't seen any, would you like me to respond for you?
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Re: What happened to global warming ?
Rumor has it its going to snow tonight in my neck of the woods. In the middle of October.
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so your argument is that its a conspiracy?

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