Shows your lack of understanding of British politics.

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*puts on Nazi hat*

I would like to take this time to point out that, on the scale of global events, the holocaust was no big deal. History of civilization? Sure, it's worth noting. Modern world history? Pretty damn major. But going from lifeless rock to eventual lifeless cinder? Doesn't really matter.

I'll also point out that Nazis had some damn compelling fashion. Evil, sure, but they knew how to dress.

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During the journey we commonly forget its goal. Almost every profession is chosen as a means to an end but continued as an end in itself. Forgetting our objectives is the most frequent act of stupidity.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Wanderer and his Shadow

All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist

Brownies Labour Party is looking like its going to get shellacked in the elections next year.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Right. And your evidence would be your undertsanding of the UK electoral system, your knowledge of the key seats and the ways that UK polls moves. The fact is that yes, the Torys have a 10 point lead right now in the national polls but with the way that the UK system works much of the Tory support has been increased in there core constituancies rather than in the key seats. At the same time the Libs support is holding strong and we have increased UKIP and Green support. In short, its all up the air right now. I'd predict a hung parliment as polls tend to close in the months before an election

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It did matter to the people put in the gas chambers.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

It matters for far more people than that. But you don't seem to be arguing for people's benefit. You're arguing for the world's benefit. The world doesn't care.

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During the journey we commonly forget its goal. Almost every profession is chosen as a means to an end but continued as an end in itself. Forgetting our objectives is the most frequent act of stupidity.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Wanderer and his Shadow

All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist

Nope. My argument is the exact opposite of what you suggest here. I'm arguing that we should care about current rapid climate change precisely because of the potential harm it has to people. I'm arguing directly against the notion that we should not do anything because somehow, someway, some form of life will persist regardless. That was the entire point of using the analogy of the holocaust.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

You jew baiting Hun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"The captain has turned off the `No Dubbing' sign. You are free to speak any language you choose."

Apparently my understanding of your views on the issue of humanities place in the greater scheme of things was horribly off base. I apologize.

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During the journey we commonly forget its goal. Almost every profession is chosen as a means to an end but continued as an end in itself. Forgetting our objectives is the most frequent act of stupidity.
-Friedrich Nietzsche, The Wanderer and his Shadow

All good socialists have villas in Southern France. That's not the point.
-Eurosocialist

The temperature change from the asteroid impact was much more extreme than what is happening now. The Earth had glaciers covering a very large part of it and causing the extinction of whole groups of life, over a short amount of time, and you say it isn't more traumatic? You seriously don't make any sense. It's obvious that the asteroid event was more extreme and damaging in every sense of the word. Maybe hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years, in the future, AGW will cause as much problems as that event did.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Precisely my point, although it might be over decades not centuries. Im not really sure what you point is though. Are you suggesting that its OK we should be destroying the life support systems of the earth because an asteroid in the past also did this?

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

No problem.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Nah, man. I'm actually pretty environmentally conscious. I do think we effect the world but I don't think it's what you and the others on the left try and make it out to be. I think we have a much greater effect on our own health than the health of the Earth. There are tons of medical problems caused by pollution and other practices. We do cloth diapers at my house and recycle, along with a few other things.

I just see environmentalism as being perverted by political causes to push certain agendas that have nothing to do with environmentalism.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw

Here's an odd question, how does the cleaning process work? I would think that would permanently foul the washer to use on other clothes.

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January 21, 2013: The End of an ERROR.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."
"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
"The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself."
---Benjamin Franklin

Nah man, it's all good. If there's a duce in there you shake it out into the toilet or scrape it off, if it's not solid. Then it's basically like putting underwear in there that has some massive streaks in it. After that you have soap that cleans it up. Think about this...if the clothies would foul up the washer so would just washing your normal funky/dirty clothes, eventually.

Estimates for diapering a child, until they are potty trained, usually land you around $3k. If you exclusively cloth diaper you can pull it off for around $500. Additionally, there is actually a market for selling used cloth diapers so you can even recover up to as high as half of that. Cloth diapers are very advanced, these days and are not the fold and pin things of the past.

Then you have the additional advantage of not putting thousands of chemical filled disposable diapers in the ground.

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A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
- George Bernard Shaw