#1 The hockey stick graph has never been debunked. It was affirmed by the national academy of sciences, and it has been recreated using dozens of different proxies. In the scientific community it stands as a verified graph. Only in the denialist community does it have any issues.

#2 Briffa did not cherry pick trees. That is a fucking ridiculous accusation (that you cannot even back-up) that did not stand up to any scrutiny whatsoever. In fact, here was the final word on that:

...one of the Russian researchers who actually control the raw tree-ring data that McIntyre was mistakenly hounding Briffa for, has apparently confirmed that utilization of a newer more complete Yamal data set has no substantial effect on Briffa’s Yamal temperature reconstruction.

Let the backpedalling begin Deep Climate

#3 All the code was released many many moons ago, and you know what, McIntyre did nothing with it. Absolutely nothing.

#4 You simply can't get anything right can you?

#5 You completely refused to rebut my post, meaning you have no argument, only ridiculous pet theories that collapse when confronted with the actual science.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Because I am discussing how we need to do something to prevent the end of mankind on Earth and you are discussing a movie.

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The bush administration and bank lobbyists proudly killing our economic system - 2003.

As usual, liberals launch attacks to completely silence the opposition. As if we needed more evidence that these people are afraid of and hate the truth, so much so that they'll do anything to silence or deny it.


It's really too bad for them that they will never succeed in shutting down the truth. They can run from it, they can scream at it, they can lie lie lie and lie some more about it, they can deny it deny it deny it deny it.


The facts are the facts.


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The website for the film "Not Evil Just Wrong" was attacked following the worldwide premiere of the documentary.


Sunday, October 18, the documentary Not Evil Just Wrong premiered worldwide via the Internet and premiere parties. Following the premiere, the film's website suffered an attack and was down most of the day.



Documentary an inconvenient truth for Gore fans (OneNewsNow.com)

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Al Gores movie was a scam from the very beginning. Eventually, those that watched and bought the lies, hook line and sinker, will be embarrased.

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As a moderate, I can't speak for libs... However, I do fear the truth, yet I don't deny the truth. I hate the truth, But know we need to deal with the truth. silence it? no, just the opposite. the bush administration is over, no need to hide from the truth. Time to deal with it.

Yes facts are facts, and movies are just that, movies. Let's discuss the facts.

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Too bad the creeps jamming up that website didn't think like you do.

No argument there.

How to "deal with it" is the question.

The American people are as much to blame as the crack brained politicians that have led them into this "swamp." We "elected" these pinheads afterall.

That sounds good. It's always a bit odd to see someone wanting to discuss facts here Not sure what to say

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Here's one quick and easy fact:

We all like to think or believe we fully grasp how Earths climate changes and functions.

None of us really do.

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I'm quite certain you don't have any understanding of it that's for sure.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

I'm pretty sure God will make the planet do whatever he wants it to do. Man can't possibly affect the climate because God does it and man isn't more powerful than god.

Umm hmmm...

Yeah, that's it - picks nose and chews booger -

What would I/we do without knowitall ignoramuses
like you and Al Bore to "guide" us

We'd be lost I tell ya.

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I don't know it all, i only know that you know nothing about it.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

You know that do you ? Why ? Because I don't believe what you believe ?

No reason to argue religion is there ?

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Because you are consistently wrong about basic scientific information.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

I see.

And you're not of course

I'm not even sure what "scientific information" I've ever offered on this subject that has actually been wrong.

Most assuredly, because you say that I have makes it true

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Given that i only source the actual science its hard to imagine how i could be consistently or systematically wrong on it.

Lets start with your recent post stating we have no understanding of how climate changes. That is categorically wrong. We have a wealth of understanding about past and current climate change.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Except you only choose to site science that supports your belief while ignoring or denying science that undermines it.

Here's what I actually said:

We all like to think or believe we fully grasp how Earths climate changes and functions.

None of us really do.

I didn't say we "have no" understanding, I just said that none of us fully understand the entire issue.

Any honest climate scientist would tell you the same thing, some have said or admitted as much.

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