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iamwhatiseem · #16 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Hmm...17 bucks an lb is not cheap.

There's a fishmonger that sells wild Alaskan salmon in Waco for 13 bucks, in Wal-marts in Dallas they sell farmed Salmon at 8 bucks per pound.

To me it didn't seem like that much of a difference. I preffer smoked salmon, just as a prefference.

Smoked Salmon...goat cheese and wheat crackers...mmmm.

Traveler · #17 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

Yeah, i love it with the cream...i got some like 2 weeks ago with cream in the middle and the smoked salmon rings around the cheese.

The only time i have liked alaskan Salmon is when it has been marinated in Carrot and Corriander.

Traveler · #18 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by CDavidNeely

According to the research I am doing the price of fish is the one area of meat production where the cost increase steadily.

Cost to the consumer or cost (to buy it) to fish them out of the water (to produce it for consumers)?

I am a hypocrite on this issue i think, otherwise i would go fish at the weekend, instead of buying it from some store somewhere.

I just don't have the faith in getting it right and cleaning the fish properly to get rid of all the nitrates, so its hygenic for me to eat.

CDavidNeely · #19 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Stocks of tuna, which is popular for sashimi, have been in rapid decline due to overfishing. So precipitous has been the drop in both numbers caught and size of fish caught for the Atlantic bluefin that scientists now fear the giant fish may disappear from the ocean. Bigeye populations have not been as hard hit, but have begun to decline. Bigeye has become the most common source of ahi in sushi bars.

Sushi salvation: Startup sees future of fish farms in giant Kevlar spheres -- DailyFinance

iamwhatiseem · #20 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by CDavidNeely

Sushi salvation: Startup sees future of fish farms in giant Kevlar spheres -- DailyFinance

Leave it up to the Japanese...

CDavidNeely · #21 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Cost to the consumer or cost (to buy it) to fish them out of the water (to produce it for consumers)?

I am a hypocrite on this issue i think, otherwise i would go fish at the weekend, instead of buying it from some store somewhere.

I just don't have the faith in getting it right and cleaning the fish properly to get rid of all the nitrates, so its hygenic for me to eat.

The report doesn't qualify between where the cost increase is directed.

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As a consequence of rising demand and slower-growing production the real prices of most fresh and frozen fish have risen since World War II, in contrast to prices of most animal-origin foods, which have declined steeply over the past several decades. Exceptions to the general rise in fish prices are canned finfish, which have declined in popularity in developed countries since the early 1970's.

www.fishforall.org/outcomes/pdf/fish2020_brief.pdf

CDavidNeely · #22 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

Leave it up to the Japanese...

Not the Japanese.

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The company, Hawaii Oceanic Technology, was founded by Paul Troy, a former professor of oceanography at the University of Hawaii

iamwhatiseem · #23 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by CDavidNeely

Not the Japanese.

No I mean leave it to the Japanese to over fish.
They are still illegally and regularly whaling.

chassisman · #24 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

Leave it up to the Japanese...

Fuk you dolphin and fuk you whale ( didja see that one?)

Traveler · #25 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

A bit off topic here, but speaking of Japan, does anyone here like Sushi? I used to be a huge fan, and have mainly ignored the fear of mercury poisoning, given that you need to eat a huge amount of to be at risk.

Strangely, i have read reports that say eating Sushi a lot, as a substitute for over-fished delicacy like Salmon is a good idea to help avoid depleting the numbers completely. I think that makes sense; but Sushi is definately becomming more and more expensive.

In the county we have a great Sushi bar, but they don't offer a buffet (all you can eat) anymore...i asked why (i complained profusely to them) but they said they couldn't afford it anymore. Depending on the time, type and what not, some of the buffet's could start as cheap as 15 bucks and some people were teaing like $120 of Sushi at a go. I was more reasonable, but now all of us suffer.

To eat a meal of any substance there now it costs about $35 at a minimum.

Captain Trips · #26 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by iamwhatiseem

But you can get Salmon for $2.99 a lb. at Wal-Mart....I mean...isn't that what it is all about..screw the consequences - we got cheap Salmon.

With the added benefit of ever growing levels of mercury in them

Great stuff for the nervous system that Hg (mercury). . . if we don't kill all the fish off, they might kill us off

Those dumb fish might get the last "vote"

Traveler · #27 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

Haha, i knew there had to be someone...

Seriously, what do you make of the issue of mercury poisoning? I'm really not sure what i think of it atm, so many people have told me that it is more serious than its made out to be. Apparently a lot of folks think you can't catch it unless you eat fish '3 meals a day'.

I think its a medium of somwhere in between.

EagleTed · #28 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by daddio

and talapia is just as bad

Switch to catfish and cheese grits.

EagleTed · #29 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Traveler

A bit off topic here, but speaking of Japan, does anyone here like Sushi? I used to be a huge fan, and have mainly ignored the fear of mercury poisoning, given that you need to eat a huge amount of to be at risk.

Strangely, i have read reports that say eating Sushi a lot, as a substitute for over-fished delicacy like Salmon is a good idea to help avoid depleting the numbers completely. I think that makes sense; but Sushi is definately becomming more and more expensive.

In the county we have a great Sushi bar, but they don't offer a buffet (all you can eat) anymore...i asked why (i complained profusely to them) but they said they couldn't afford it anymore. Depending on the time, type and what not, some of the buffet's could start as cheap as 15 bucks and some people were teaing like $120 of Sushi at a go. I was more reasonable, but now all of us suffer.

To eat a meal of any substance there now it costs about $35 at a minimum.

I like fish that are cooked. It has the added benefit in the fact that mercury expands as the temperature rises, so you get more for your money.

EagleTed · #30 (**permalink**) 2 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Traveler

Haha, i knew there had to be someone...

Seriously, what do you make of the issue of mercury poisoning? I'm really not sure what i think of it atm, so many people have told me that it is more serious than its made out to be. Apparently a lot of folks think you can't catch it unless you eat fish '3 meals a day'.

I think its a medium of somwhere in between.

Oddly, the Law of Unintended Consequences means that the ban of incandescent light bulbs means the problem is only going to get worse. Mercury being a necessary ingredient in fluorescent bulbs.

Or, maybe that was it's purpose, to save the fish.

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