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He hasn't let facts get in his way so far. Why should he start now?

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are you telling me that the damn global warming has increased the earth's core to millions of degrees now ?

or is it just a heat wave and thats why temps up o top are up a degree ?

jeez, somebody get that fool a gig replacing the sham wow guy

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Temperature at the Center of the Earth
Its in the range of 3,000-7000 degrees Celsius.

In light of Gore's obvious misstatement, are you guys suggesting that geothermal energy isn't possible?

Is our children learning?

I think they are suggesting that because Al Gore misstated the temperature it must automatically invalidate the conclusions of all climate scientists.

This is generally referred to as a strawman argument.



Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

AlGore would not know a fact... scientific or otherwise... if it bit him square on his ever increasing fat ass.

Global Warming is a lie. So much so that even it's proponents had to change it's name to Climate Change

Climate Change is bad science
Climate Change is bad politcs
Climate Change is not man made... happens all the time.
AlGore is an idiot... happens all the time.

Actually it was the man in charge of the George W. Bush administrations propaganda regarding climate science, Frank Luntz, that used the phrase climate change - their focus groups showed them that it sounded less threatening than global warming.

So in reality it was the the people who spend so much effort denying science that brought us the popular usage of the term "climate change".

"We have spent the last seven years examining how best to communicate complicated ideas and controversial subjects. The terminology in the upcoming environmental debate needs refinement, starting with “global warming’’ and ending with "environmentalism". It’s time for us to start talking about “climate change” instead of global warming and “conservation ” instead of preservation.


1. “Climate change’’ is less frightening than “global warming"; As one focus group participant noted, climate change “sounds like you’re going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.” While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more
controllable and less emotional challenge."

http://www.desmogblog.com/sites/beta...ntz%20Memo.pdf

As a side note the man who wrote this memo has done a mea culpa and now completely agrees with the fact that GW is real and industrial civilization is the cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPdCk...layer_embedded

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

Yes they were, but I was reversing the strawman argument. If Al Gore is so obviously wrong about the temperature of the earth, then he must be wrong in the context in which he said it, which was using geothermal energy. So because Al Gore was wrong, geothermal energy must be impossible.

Of course. But in reality the OP was only interested in taking a cheap shot - there was no genuine concern at all that would even warrant this thread being in the environmental issues section.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

I think what its trying to say is that one should not pay attention to anything Al Gore says that involves science in any way.

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

Which is a strawman. You are trying to invalidate what he might say about AGW because he made an error about core earth temperatures. The two are unrelated.

At any rate, people should look at the actual science. i.e., actual scientists say that the earths core temperatures are not millions of degrees, and actual scientists are also saying that AGW is real, is ongoing, and is a significant threat.

Andrew

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“...corporations and those who run them cannot stop exploiting resources and amassing wealth until they have... .I cannot finish this sentence, because the truth is that can never stop; like cancer, they can only continue to expand until they kill the host.”

-- Derrick Jensen

if you couple this with the lies he admitted to intentionally making with his global warming stuff then I thnk its very mush related and significant.

seperate whatever actuals he may have made and you cannot deny the guy is a charlatan.

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"Every government interference in the economy consists of giving an unearned benefit, extorted by force, to some men at the expense of others."

Ayn Rand

I'm not familiar with any lies that Gore made or admitted to making.

I disagree. I think he is a capitalist.

Andrew

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-- Derrick Jensen

We are suggesting that "Chicken-little"'s best friend is retarded.

(Sorry for insulting any retards posting here.)

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He's just a different kind of wrong!

My understanding was that temperatures were about 60 degrees Fahrenheit (about 15.5 C) at thirty feet. Has nothing to do with the actual topic, but the whole 30-60 C at a mile and a quarter has me thrown.

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Al's jet requires several million gallons of Jet-A as he tries to boldly go where no other carbon emmiter has gone before. I am amazed that he can find enough idiots to fill an auditorium.

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