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Old 12-15-2009
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100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

You just can't make this stuff up

Just a sample...

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1) There is “no real scientific proof” that the current warming is caused by the rise of greenhouse gases from man’s activity.

2) Man-made carbon dioxide emissions throughout human history constitute less than 0.00022 percent of the total naturally emitted from the mantle of the earth during geological history.

8) The IPCC theory is driven by just 60 scientists and favourable reviewers not the 4,000 usually cited.

9) Leaked e-mails from British climate scientists – in a scandal known as “Climate-gate” - suggest that that has been manipulated to exaggerate global warming

10) A large body of scientific research suggests that the sun is responsible for the greater share of climate change during the past hundred years.
Check out the other 95... and don't miss old #100:

100) A report by the Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change concluded “We find no support for the IPCC’s claim that climate observations during the twentieth century are either unprecedented or provide evidence of an anthropogenic effect on climate.”
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Yet so much of it is just made up....

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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Yet so much of it is just made up....

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What points aren't made up?
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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What points aren't made up?
Well, some of them are real facts, but they are totally misrepresented.

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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist
Impressive.......but what if climate scientists come up with 500 reasons why AGW does exist?


Personally, I've not drawn a conclusion.....I sure would like to see a real live scientific debate about it instead of asynchronous pot shots through the media by the politically motivated.
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

I read the first one, and that was enough. Clearly the author doesn't understand basic science.


Oh, and the CO2 released during the entire geologic history of the earth is relevant, how, exactly?
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Impressive.......but what if climate scientists come up with 500 reasons why AGW does exist?


Personally, I've not drawn a conclusion.....I sure would like to see a real live scientific debate about it instead of asynchronous pot shots through the media.
Here:

Skeptical Science: Examining Global Warming Skepticism
RealClimate

pick a topic and read the comments, there are no politics tolerated, only science.

Be forewarned though, most scientists have moved on from debating whether AGW is happening, they are mainly debating the details.

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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Well, some of them are real facts, but they are totally misrepresented.

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Dan Rather would be soooo... proud of you Andrew!

No, that is not a complement.
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

This list is great. How can you not have fun with statements like this:

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45) The increase of the air’s CO2 content has probably helped lengthen human lifespans since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution

It couldn't have been increased nutrition, better healthcare, the knowledge of antibiotics and sterile procedures, the development of vaccines to most childhood diseases, etc.

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47) In May of 2004, the Russian Academy of Sciences published a report concluding that the Kyoto Protocol has no scientific grounding at all.
How is that a reason?

What does this have to do with global warming?

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50) Wind power is unlikely to be the answer to our energy needs. The wind power industry argues that there are “no direct subsidies” but it involves a total subsidy of as much as £60 per MWh which falls directly on electricity consumers. This burden will grow in line with attempts to achieve Wind power targets, according to a recent OFGEM report.

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51) Wind farms are not an efficient way to produce energy. The British Wind Energy Association (BWEA) accepts a figure of 75 per cent back-up power is required.
What does this have to do with global warming being natural or not?
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74) To date “cap and trade” carbon markets have done almost nothing to reduce emissions.
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77) Why should politicians devote our scarce resources in a globally competitive world to a false and ill-defined problem, while ignoring the real problems the entire planet faces, such as: poverty, hunger, disease or terrorism.
Thank you for a good laugh.
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

That's kind of cool that there are exactly 100 reasons. It's a nice, round number, and it's also a lot of reasons. I would say that should be reason number 101, but that would kind of torpedo my whole point here.
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Oh, and the CO2 released during the entire geologic history of the earth is relevant, how, exactly?
It should help to figure out where all that CO2 came from and where it's going. makes some sense, no clue where the hell the number in that list came from of course.
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

when u promote such useless stuffs......is it world super power or world super wimp?
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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Here:

Skeptical Science: Examining Global Warming Skepticism
RealClimate

pick a topic and read the comments, there are no politics tolerated, only science.

Be forewarned though, most scientists have moved on from debating whether AGW is happening, they are mainly debating the details.

Andrew
Oh, they are debating the details, I see. is that all, the 'details'? And define most please and lets be clear; if you do provide me with a number we can verify they must beleive that global waming is casued by man, not that there is or was warming......
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

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when u promote such useless stuffs......is it world super power or world super wimp?
Come on over and find out...
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Re: 100 reasons AGW Does NOT Exist

the motto of China is scientific development....I am more comfortable with that than being with deniers..................

every society has laws against inappropriate behaviors...I am in favor of laws against irresponsible behaviors of deniers, misleading others who are weaker , doing harm to society...........that is why censorships, censures, and jail terms are appropriate for such nonsense.
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