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Old 12-22-2009
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dogs are killing the planet

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and cats aren't much better !


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PARIS (AFP) – Man's best friend could be one of the environment's worst enemies, according to a new study which says the carbon pawprint of a pet dog is more than double that of a gas-guzzling sports utility vehicle.

But the revelation in the book "Time to Eat the Dog: The Real Guide to Sustainable Living" by New Zealanders Robert and Brenda Vale has angered pet owners who feel they are being singled out as troublemakers.

The Vales, specialists in sustainable living at Victoria University of Wellington, analysed popular brands of pet food and calculated that a medium-sized dog eats around 164 kilos (360 pounds) of meat and 95 kilos of cereal a year.

Combine the land required to generate its food and a "medium" sized dog has an annual footprint of 0.84 hectares (2.07 acres) -- around twice the 0.41 hectares required by a 4x4 driving 10,000 kilometres (6,200 miles) a year, including energy to build the car.

To confirm the results, the New Scientist magazine asked John Barrett at the Stockholm Environment Institute in York, Britain, to calculate eco-pawprints based on his own data. The results were essentially the same.

"Owning a dog really is quite an extravagance, mainly because of the carbon footprint of meat," Barrett said.

Other animals aren't much better for the environment, the Vales say.

Cats have an eco-footprint of about 0.15 hectares, slightly less than driving a Volkswagen Golf for a year, while two hamsters equates to a plasma television and even the humble goldfish burns energy equivalent to two mobile telephones.

sorry Fido, you gotta GO

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Re: dogs are killing the planet

Just shows all the "carbon footprint" stuff is insane twaddle. I wonder what the carbon footprint of a herd of wildebeests is? Imagine the carbon footprint of the vast prehistoric herds, how did the world ever survive that?
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Re: dogs are killing the planet

Most industries in a densely populated world are a blight - the pet industry included. This does not surprise me.

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Re: dogs are killing the planet

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Most industries in a densely populated world are a blight - the pet industry included. This does not surprise me.

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How many industries have you supported this week?
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Most industries in a densely populated world are a blight - the pet industry included. This does not surprise me.

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they are not referring to industries, they are referring to those little furry animals.
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Most industries in a densely populated world are a blight - Andrew
And there is the prevailing view of most enviro-nuts... man is the problem there is no solution other than eliminating the problem... get the population down to less than a billion and give up all technology.

Right...
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get the population down to less than a billion
OK. That would be awesome.

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OK. That would be awesome.

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ok, we have a plan

lets start with the muslims, chicoms and indians. that will get us close numbers wise.
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they are not referring to industries, they are referring to those little furry animals.
No. They are referring to the pet industry, i.e., the amount of pet food that has to be mass produced.

This is just another industry that serves the avarice needs of a few to the detriment of asll other life forms.

Blaming dogs here is about as stupid as blaming cows for the damage that intensive meat production for human consumption causes.

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OK. That would be awesome.

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Yeah billions of dead people would just simply be wonderful...
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ok, we have a plan

lets start with the muslims, chicoms and indians. that will get us close numbers wise.
Start? - we are already headed down the path of ecocide and have been for some time.

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No. They are referring to the pet industry, i.e., the amount of pet food that has to be mass produced.

This is just another industry that serves the avarice needs of a few to the detriment of asll other life forms.

Blaming dogs here is about as stupid as blaming cows for the damage that intensive meat production for human consumption causes.

Andrew


its the methane out either end of the cows that is their issue. its a greenhouse gas too and more prevanent than all the SUVs and their CO2.
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Yeah billions of dead people would just simply be wonderful...
How would it be any different than the over 100 billion dead people who are already dead?

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Start? - we are already headed down the path of ecocide and have been for some time.

Andrew


you said start the killin, I assumed you meant it, dont know if I cna call off the ICBMs now !
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Re: dogs are killing the planet

I know my dog has gas foul enough to melt the ozone layer. She's nasty.
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