Thread: Enviromentalist are to blame for the oil catastrophe

Originally Posted by sinebar

Nope it's not BP. It's not Bush or Obama. It's the enviromentalist who are the real culprits here. These people have forced legislation and regulation forcing oil companies to drill in waters so deep that it's almost impossible to repair a catastrophic failure such as we now have. If BP could have drilled in shallow water this leak would have been plugged within a few days. But because this well is so deep they are now saying December. Thank you tree huggers may we have another? Now to make things worse these people also forced laws and regualtion making it a nightmare and almost impossible for Gov. Bobby Jindal to place barriers along the shore to protect it from the massive oil slick. Why? because they had to do an ENVIROMENTAL STUDY! Are they kidding? This is so typical of these kind of people. They actually do more harm to what they are trying to protect by trying to protect it. Please stop trying to protect the enviroment for God sake.

You went to all that trouble to write that and forgot to mention that BP was simply too fucking cheap to install a $500,000 acoustic trigger.

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

Sorry you can't seem to get the story straight.

Originally Posted by sinebar

Nope it's not BP. It's not Bush or Obama. It's the enviromentalist who are the real culprits here. These people have forced legislation and regulation forcing oil companies to drill in waters so deep that it's almost impossible to repair a catastrophic failure such as we now have. If BP could have drilled in shallow water this leak would have been plugged within a few days. But because this well is so deep they are now saying December. Thank you tree huggers may we have another? Now to make things worse these people also forced laws and regualtion making it a nightmare and almost impossible for Gov. Bobby Jindal to place barriers along the shore to protect it from the massive oil slick. Why? because they had to do an ENVIROMENTAL STUDY! Are they kidding? This is so typical of these kind of people. They actually do more harm to what they are trying to protect by trying to protect it. Please stop trying to protect the enviroment for God sake.

Why do you accept the dogmatic assertion that oil is an absolute necessity for industrial civilization, rather than merely the most profitable alternative?

Originally Posted by sinebar

Nope it's not BP. It's not Bush or Obama. It's the enviromentalist who are the real culprits here. These people have forced legislation and regulation forcing oil companies to drill in waters so deep that it's almost impossible to repair a catastrophic failure such as we now have. If BP could have drilled in shallow water this leak would have been plugged within a few days. But because this well is so deep they are now saying December. Thank you tree huggers may we have another? Now to make things worse these people also forced laws and regualtion making it a nightmare and almost impossible for Gov. Bobby Jindal to place barriers along the shore to protect it from the massive oil slick. Why? because they had to do an ENVIROMENTAL STUDY! Are they kidding? This is so typical of these kind of people. They actually do more harm to what they are trying to protect by trying to protect it. Please stop trying to protect the enviroment for God sake.

And if they had drilled the well in European waters, they would have had to drill the relief well at the same time, so it would have been over a couple of weeks ago, but environmentalists convinced the Bush administration that costly "safety measures" were of no benefit. Is that your theory?

Originally Posted by atheist

Why do you accept the dogmatic assertion that oil is an absolute necessity for industrial civilization, rather than merely the most profitable alternative?

Well, for starters, there is no alternative at this juncture of time.

Originally Posted by atheist

Why do you accept the dogmatic assertion that oil is an absolute necessity for industrial civilization, rather than merely the most profitable alternative?

You got something better?

Originally Posted by fishjoel

Well, for starters, there is no alternative at this juncture of time.

Originally Posted by Commodore

You got something better?

Electric vehicles will be better once a serious effort is made.

Originally Posted by atheist

Electric vehicles will be better once a serious effort is made.

How do you intend to make the juice?

Originally Posted by Commodore

How do you intend to make the juice?

If you take away oil, then there is still plenty of capacity.

Originally Posted by Tanngrisnir3

You went to all that trouble to write that and forgot to mention that BP was simply too fucking cheap to install a $500,000 acoustic trigger.

Leaking Oil Well Lacked Safeguard Device - WSJ.com

Sorry you can't seem to get the story straight.

The blowout preventer did activate, but failed to close off the pipe. Why would a other trigger to activate the same failed blowout preventer have made a difference?

Greetings and Felicitations,

Originally Posted by Commodore

You got something better?

People Power.



Seriously do you think that if the oil dried up tomorrow people wouldn't find a solution rather quickly - perhaps something like hydrogen fuel cells powered by solar, wind and wave energy.

Replacements for Plastics.
http://dolci.perc.ca/PEN/2004-11-12/s-larose.html

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/10022381.html

Sincerely Yours,
C. David Neely

Originally Posted by atheist

If you take away oil, then there is still plenty of capacity.

No there isn't.

Originally Posted by atheist

Electric vehicles will be better once a serious effort is made.

Will be....so you mean, "Not yet". Additionally, electric car aren't all environmentally sound either. They go through batteries very quickly and battery acid is very toxic.

Originally Posted by atheist

If you take away oil, then there is still plenty of capacity.

By juice he meant power to charge the car. It has to come from somewhere. We have oil, natural gas, coal. Nothing else can produce enough power to fulfill the requirements.