Thread: Coast Guard: STOP SUCKING UP THE OIL!!!

Unfuckingbelievable.

Jindal stock is going up, and Obama is simply over matched it seems jindal is acting as a leader while Obama is simply a politician.

And if someone drowned or died in a fire it would be Obama's fault for letting them operate without basic safety equipment.

At least this proves the point we were talking about in another thread-you can't just show up and start cleaning up oil. There are specific safety procedures and equipment required. Somebody tell these people where Wal-Mart is.

Thumbs up for everyone involved... for taking action where action is needed and making sure the actions are done in accordance with safety regulations.

its not that they did not have the safety equipment people... its that the feds wanted to MAKE SURE!! heh..

So, for more the 24 hours they made the barges sit...

IDIOTIC... plain and simple.

It hard to tell if they are incompetent or intentionally trying to see what they can fuck up.

The Coast Guard was stuck here - they have to follow the law. It's not really reasonable to blame them for doing what they are required to do.

Originally Posted by Cari

And if someone drowned or died in a fire it would be Obama's fault for letting them operate without basic safety equipment.

At least this proves the point we were talking about in another thread-you can't just show up and start cleaning up oil. There are specific safety procedures and equipment required. Somebody tell these people where Wal-Mart is.

Cari, "The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there were fire extinguishers and life vests on board." in no way means that there were no fire extinguishers and life vests on board. It would seem that given the urgency of the work they were doing on the barges, the coast guard would actually come aboard and check for fire extinguishers and life vests in stead of waiting to contact the companies that built the barges to check design specs.

Originally Posted by Cari

And if someone drowned or died in a fire it would be Obama's fault for letting them operate without basic safety equipment.

At least this proves the point we were talking about in another thread-you can't just show up and start cleaning up oil. There are specific safety procedures and equipment required. Somebody tell these people where Wal-Mart is.

Strange because thats exactly what they did. They just showed up and started cleaning up, without waiting for the govt to inspect their equipment. Nothing in the story indicates they werent operating safely, just that the Coast Guard hadnt said so yet.

Vacuum Barges Deemed Safe to Join Oil Spill Response

Vacuum Barges Deemed Safe to Join Oil Spill Response
Thursday, 17 June 2010 20:25 Press Release BP/Gulf Oil Spill 17042

HOUMA, La.--(ENEWSPF)--June 17, 2010. The vacuum barges in Louisiana have been deemed safe to re-join the fight against the oil spill in the Gulf. The vacuum barges were temporarily removed from service after safety concerns occurred including stability and the lack of lifesaving and firefighting equipment.

The Coast Guard Incident Commander in Houma, responsible for the safety of more than 10,000 response workers in Louisiana, and the Coast Guard Captain of the Port of New Orleans, responsible for general vessel safety and inspections in Louisiana, consulted on the safety issues of the shallow water barge vacuum vessels. They are satisfied that all concerns have been addressed and the vessels are safe for all crewmembers aboard.

“The Coast Guard supports the Louisiana vacuum barge project - fighting the oil is our priority. However, we will never compromise the safety of all the men and women working so hard out in the field,” said Capt. Roger Laferriere, Coast Guard Incident Commander in Houma.

There were safety concerns beyond just lifesavers and fire extinguishers - the Coast Guard was also concerned about the barge's stability. Be glad it didn't take a month-long study to deem the barges safe. 24 hours seems reasonable to me. Good job, Coast Guard.

You cannot operate a vessel of a certain size on US waters without a valid Coast Guard safety inspection. That law binds the Coast Guard just as much as the vessel owner.

The Coast Guard was just following the law. Blaming them for doing so is absurd.

No! Not a good job. They let bureaucracy get in the way of logic. The Coast Guard could have saved 24 hours of time, further damage to the coast line and a negative public perception by simply checking for safety equipment on board as the barges continued to suck up oil.

Originally Posted by Ernie S.

No! Not a good job. They let bureaucracy get in the way of logic. The Coast Guard could have saved 24 hours of time, further damage to the coast line and a negative public perception by simply checking for safety equipment on board as the barges continued to suck up oil.

Again... it's not that simple. Not just a matter of safety equipment. They had to verify the crafts' seaworthiness.

And they do that how? By contacting the barge builder? yeah right! a 30 year old barge in still in the same configuration as it was when launched? What's wrong with an on site inspection? If you need a special team to do that, fly them in on military aircraft if necessary. Spend some of BP's 20 billion dollar extortion check for something that will actually help stop continued damage? Too logical. It seems that the administration's handling of this spill is more about flexing government muscle and demonizing BP than it is about clearing obstacles and making it easy to save the beaches and marshes.