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    10 billion spent on environment & climate between ‘00 & ‘09

    Damn pesky facts...


    The Guardian, March 2010:
    US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace
    Report identifies Koch Industries giving $73m to climate sceptic groups 'spreading inaccurate and misleading information'

    A Greenpeace investigation has identified a little-known, privately owned US oil company as the paymaster of global warming sceptics in the US and Europe.
    US oil company donated millions to climate sceptic groups, says Greenpeace | Environment | guardian.co.uk



    How much have the greens received between 2000 and 2009? $10 Billion.
    From the National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy:

    The pace of social change is increasing rapidly in the United States and around the globe but unfortunately the environment and climate movement has failed thus far to keep up with movements for justice and equality. Existing environmental regulations have been diminished and new initiatives have been attacked and stymied. From 2000-2009, grantmakers provided $10 billion for environment and climate work, funding primarily top- down strategies; yet, we have not seen a significant policy win since the 1980s. Our funding strategy is misaligned with the great perils our planet and environment face.

    http://www.ncrp.org/files/publicatio...nal_lowres.pdf

    $10 Billion? in just 9 years??
    That's an unbelievably staggering amount of money spent on this issue.


    How does this compare to what the 'well-funded' skeptics get?

    From the WashingtonPost, Feb 2012:
    Big oil companies seem to be increasingly minor players in the skeptic arena

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    One surprising thing about the Heartland documents, however, is that big oil companies don’t seem to be major donors. The Koch Charitable Foundation — a conservative charity linked to one of the country’s largest private oil refineries — chipped in $25,000 in 2011, but that was devoted specifically for a health care research program.* Exxon, for its part, stopped donating back in 2006 after heavy pressure from environmental groups (up to that point, the oil giant had chipped in $675,000).

    Leaked docs offer insight into how climate-skeptic groups operate - The Washington Post
    Now consider that with this staggering amount of spending on the green cause, all the subtle media messages in TV and movies that we are bombarded with everyday, all the pro-AGW indoctrination education that our children have been getting for years and that the consensus of the vast majority of scientists is that the warming we have had has been caused by humans, they still can't sway public opinion on this issue. How could this rag-tag group of under-funded skeptics be so successful?


    And unless someone can show that Oil and other companies matched or came close to contributing $10 Billion in the last 10 or so years, I'd say another liberal [s]lie[/s] [s]whopper[/s] myth, the [s]lie[/s] myth that the skeptics are well-funded by oil and other companies is history.

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    TheNation, June 7, 2007

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    Re: 10 billion spent on environment & climate between ‘00 & ‘09

    Quote Originally Posted by kramer View Post
    $10 Billion? in just 9 years??
    That's an unbelievably staggering amount of money spent on this issue.
    Wow. A bit over $3 per year per US citizen. No wonder the science deniers are so furious at such massive amounts of money being spent to completely delude everybody but themselves.
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    Re: 10 billion spent on environment & climate between ‘00 & ‘09

    Gillete have most likely spent more than that designing the next crazy razor. $10 Billion in 9 years is bugger all these days and who pays for all those fancy pants super computers both sides use as surely they're not cheap.

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    Re: 10 billion spent on environment & climate between ‘00 & ‘09

    Quote Originally Posted by PeterUK75 View Post
    Gillete have most likely spent more than that designing the next crazy razor. $10 Billion in 9 years is bugger all these days and who pays for all those fancy pants super computers both sides use as surely they're not cheap.
    $10 billion is a staggering amount of money spend on climate and the environment.
    “We should never be more vigilant than at the moment a new dogma is being installed. … The left has been swept along, entranced by the allure of weather as revolutionary agent, naïvely conceiving of global warming as a crisis that will force radical social changes on capitalism.”

    TheNation, June 7, 2007

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    Re: 10 billion spent on environment & climate between ‘00 & ‘09

    $10 billion to try and prove that man-made CO2 emissions are going to cause catastrophic climate change - and they haven't proved anything yet.

    Then there are the billions we are going to send to third world countries in the name of stopping climate change, and the billions spent subsidizing uneconomical forms of energy like solar, wind, and bio-fuels. Its a hell of an expensive solution to a problem that has not been proven to exist.

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