U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum - Popular Crime Stories and Trials http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/ A forum to discuss high profile crime stories and trials, media circus trials, etc en Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:01:41 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.USPoliticsOnline.com/images/misc/rss.jpg U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum - Popular Crime Stories and Trials http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/ Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Miranda Rights http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57274-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-miranda-rights.html Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:13:58 GMT Ok so they are going to try this guy in civilian criminal court. Some legal expert, I forget who and where I heard him, stated that this terrorist had not had his rights read and could get off just on that alone and quite frankly it made since to... Ok so they are going to try this guy in civilian criminal court. Some legal expert, I forget who and where I heard him, stated that this terrorist had not had his rights read and could get off just on that alone and quite frankly it made since to me and has me worried. I'm no legal expert but could this be a possibility? ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials sinebar http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57274-khalid-sheikh-mohammed-miranda-rights.html Gitmo North? http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57228-gitmo-north.html Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:35:21 GMT Well. It looks like Obama's looking at bringing the Gitmo detainees stateside.

Illinois is the target. This prison is a little more than an hour away from me. You'd think I might have a NIMBY reflex, but I haven't.

http://www.bnd.com/326/story/1011747.html

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Rural Illinois town counting on prison's benefits

The Associated Press


THOMSON, Ill. -- Residents in the northwestern Illinois community of Thomson say they'd rather take their chances with Guantanamo Bay detainees than struggle another year with high unemployment.

They say news that the federal government might buy the near-empty Thomson Correctional Center to house some detainees is a good sign that their town of about 450 may finally get its due.

Retiree Richard Groharing says the town is dying off because without jobs no young people are moving in.

Federal officials were at the prison to inspect it Monday.

President Barack Obama's administration wants to close Guantanamo Bay in Cuba and move the detainees to the U.S. so they can be prosecuted. But several Illinois lawmakers say moving detainees to Illinois is too risky and would make the Chicago area a terrorist target.
I'm for it and am surprised to see that local residents are generally ok with it.

I think there is very little risk of these guys escaping a supermax. I do think there is a small risk that the prison becomes a terror target where terrorists detonate a suicide bomb by the entrance...etc. That's the extent of my concern.

What do you think? ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials TheLastBoyScout http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57228-gitmo-north.html The risky life of a criminal http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57126-risky-life-criminal.html Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:55:00 GMT Living on the border, we are all familiar with criminals coming from Mexican gangs. In this situation, three armed felons crossed the US border, and tried to rob an off duty El Paso , Texas Police Officer dressed in civilian clothes while he stood... Living on the border, we are all familiar with criminals coming from Mexican gangs. In this situation, three armed felons crossed the US border, and tried to rob an off duty El Paso , Texas Police Officer dressed in civilian clothes while he stood in front of a bank.
The plan was for two of them to grab his backpack and toss it to an accomplice on a stolen motorcycle. However, the well prepared Police Officer shot all of them, managing to kill 2 immediately. The 3rd one was shot in both arms and bleed to death before help arrived.
Gun used: a 40 cal.

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http://camdisc.googlegroups.com/atta...view=1&part=10 ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials chassisman http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57126-risky-life-criminal.html Prosecutors to seek death penalty when Nidal Malik Hasan faces a court-martial http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57101-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-when-nidal-malik-hasan-faces-court-martial.html Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:45:13 GMT ---Quote--- *Prosecutors to seek death penalty when Nidal Malik Hasan faces a court-martial* WASHINGTON - Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be tried in a military court-martial, and prosecutors are expected to seek the death penalty, officials...
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Prosecutors to seek death penalty when Nidal Malik Hasan faces a court-martial

WASHINGTON - Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be tried in a military court-martial, and prosecutors are expected to seek the death penalty, officials said yesterday.

FBI and Army investigators tried to interview Hasan, who is recovering from bullet wounds in a San Antonio, Tex., Army hospital, on Sunday, but he refused and demanded a lawyer.

Under the military system, Hasan's fellow Army officers - almost certainly combat veterans - will rule on whether he is guilty of the mass murder of 12 soldiers and one civilian at Fort Hood, and, if so, on his punishment. A death penalty would be carried out by lethal injection.

The last military execution was carried out in 1961, and the last execution in a federal court case was in 2003.
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When convicted and if sentenced to the DP, I expect Ooooobama to commute his sentence to life. ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials lug-nut http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57101-prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-when-nidal-malik-hasan-faces-court-martial.html ALl I have to say is...Here we go again... http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57049-all-i-have-say-here-we-go-again.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 21:33:48 GMT How many is this now?
I got an idea...let's hire this organization to help get votes for a Presidential election.

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Computers, Hard Drives Seized at ACORN's New Orleans Office
Investigators for the Louisiana Attorney General executed a search warrant Friday at ACORN's New Orleans office in connections to allegations of embezzlement and tax fraud.

Spokeswoman Tammi Arender Herring said the search warrant was executed shortly after 9 a.m. and resulted in the seizure of computers, hard drives and documents.
]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials iamwhatiseem http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57049-all-i-have-say-here-we-go-again.html Breaking: Shooting in Orlando http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57045-breaking-shooting-orlando.html Fri, 06 Nov 2009 18:30:29 GMT MSNBC reports ... no link. Appears to be disgruntled employee. MSNBC reports ... no link.

Appears to be disgruntled employee. ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Rude Boy http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57045-breaking-shooting-orlando.html 12 dead, 31 injured in Fort Hood shooting http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57021-12-dead-31-injured-fort-hood-shooting.html Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:55:42 GMT for now I think it belongs here...until we know who and as much 'why' as we can...

not much out there but the link below....

7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
SWAT teams battle at least one gunman on the military base

NBC News and msnbc.com
updated 2 minutes ago
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on Thursday.

The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN, which said the person had opened fire on the SWAT team at the base.

KCEN reported that a policeman was among those shot.


NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting* - Crime & courts- msnbc.com ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Imperator http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/57021-12-dead-31-injured-fort-hood-shooting.html <![CDATA[Gore Vidal Says Polanski 'Victim' Was a Hooker]]> http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56914-gore-vidal-says-polanski-victim-hooker.html Sat, 31 Oct 2009 07:59:09 GMT ... and, I think she was, too. In an interview for Atlantic Monthly, Vidal says: ---Quote--- In September, director Roman Polanski was arrested in Switzerland for leaving the U.S. in 1978 before being sentenced to prison for raping a... ... and, I think she was, too. In an interview for Atlantic Monthly, Vidal says:

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In September, director Roman Polanski was arrested in Switzerland for leaving the U.S. in 1978 before being sentenced to prison for raping a 13-year-old girl at Jack Nicholson’s house in Hollywood. During the time of the original incident, you were working in the industry, and you and Polanski had a common friend in theater critic and producer Kenneth Tynan. So what’s your take on Polanski, this many years later?

I really don’t give a fuck. Look, am I going to sit and weep every time a young hooker feels as though she’s been taken advantage of?

I’ve certainly never heard that take on the story before.

First, I was in the middle of all that. Back then, we all were. Everybody knew everybody else. There was a totally different story at the time that doesn’t resemble anything that we’re now being told.

What do you mean?

The media can’t get anything straight. Plus, there’s usually an anti-Semitic and anti-fag thing going on with the press – lots of crazy things. The idea that this girl was in her communion dress, a little angel all in white, being raped by this awful Jew, Polacko – that’s what people were calling him – well, the story is totally different now from what it was then.

Hollywood once provided protection for some of its people. For example, Rock Hudson was heterosexual to the public until 1985, when he announced he had AIDS.

Studios protect big moneymakers. The movies with Rock Hudson and Doris Day were profitable. Each star was given the Sheriff’s telephone number to say, “Lay off.” The Sheriff wasn’t going to go fucking around with the talent. They were the income of Hollywood.

During the 1970s, Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, and producer Robert Evans were celebrated for lifestyles of sexual extravagance.

Well, they’re all virgins, every last one of them. I can testify to that. And the last one you mentioned, he’s a super virgin.

They’ve certainly never been criticized and condemned for their sexual excesses. But Polanski was condemned even before he pled guilty to raping a girl.

Well, believe it or not, anti-Semitism is very strong out here, even though this is a Jewish business. L.B. Mayer was the worst anti-Semite of all.

But he was Jewish.

Well, Mayer’s view was, “The public will turn on all of us if they know that one of us has done anything.”

You think anti-Semitism is motivating the prosecution of Polanski?

Anti-Semitism got poor Polanski. He was also a foreigner. He did not subscribe to American values in the least. To [his persecutors], that seemed vicious and unnatural.

What are “American values”?

Lying and cheating. There’s nothing better.

So you’re saying that a non-Jewish director wouldn’t have to worry about getting caught up in a sex crime scandal? Such a thing wouldn’t be an issue for Martin Scorsese?

Well, he’s an absolutely sexless director. Can you think of a sex scene that he ever shot?

Errol Flynn stood trial for raping underage girls in 1943, and was acquitted. Was he treated differently than Roman Polanski?

Everybody liked Errol Flynn.

Women threw their underwear at him.

Well, he was clean-limbed. You couldn’t find a single hair on those legs of his. So he’s another golden virgin.
A Conversation With Gore Vidal - The Atlantic (October 28, 2009)

Vidal: Still annoying after all these years ...:lol: ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials picaro http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56914-gore-vidal-says-polanski-victim-hooker.html Parents sue bat company, 12 retards award them $850,000 http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56913-parents-sue-bat-company-12-retards-award-them-850-000-a.html Sat, 31 Oct 2009 03:04:07 GMT Jury finds against Louisville Slugger, manufacturer comments - Q2 KTVQ - Billings, Montana - News, Weather, Sports - (http://www.ktvq.com/Global/story.asp?S=11403125) ---Quote--- Brandon Patch was killed in 2003 when he was struck in the head... Jury finds against Louisville Slugger, manufacturer comments - Q2 KTVQ - Billings, Montana - News, Weather, Sports -

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Brandon Patch was killed in 2003 when he was struck in the head by a baseball that had been hit by a Louisville Slugger aluminum bat.
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The jury in the civil lawsuit ruled in favor of the Patch family, finding that Louisville Slugger is liable for failing to warn about the dangers of using aluminum bats, and that the failure to warn played a part in the accident that caused the death of Brandon Patch.
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the jury found in our favor, that the bat was not defective.
Yes, the jury found that the bat was not defective, but that the family should still get hundreds of thousands of dollars because they did not properly warn the users of the bat of the fact that using a blunt object to hit a smaller blunt object may cause the smaller blunt object to fly in the other direction and damage a third blunt object.

Up next: dumbass sticks pencil in his nose, family sues pencil manufacturer for not attaching a warning to the pencil.

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The family says this case was about awareness, not money. After the verdict was announced, Debbie Patch said, ""We came into this not knowing. We were just hoping to prevail is all - for Brandon. This is for Brandon, and for the other kids on the field."
Yes, I'm sure the fact mentioned above completely escapes the people who play baseball. I hope the Patch family continues their great crusade and warns people of the dangers of walking into brick walls, sticking their dicks into meat grinders and stapling sheets of papers to their eyeballs.

Greedy, blackhearted fucks. ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Slon http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56913-parents-sue-bat-company-12-retards-award-them-850-000-a.html Now this takes some balls.... http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56841-now-takes-some-balls.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:18:25 GMT I cannot believe there was actually a lawyer willing to take this case. Then again, they say lawyers aren't human.

Murderer makes headway in suit against hostage | KATU.com - News, Weather and Sports - Portland, Oregon | Local & Regional

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By Susan Harding KATU News and KATU.com Staff Video PORTLAND, Ore. - A man convicted of murder is now targeting one of his victims again, and he's winning in court.

An Oregon inmate who killed one man in 2006 is now suing his former hostage.

It all started over an $18,000 order for an ice cream truck.

The hostage victim, Rob Chambers, used to build ice cream trucks and he built one for a customer in New York. That customer turned into a killer, deciding to commit murder when he couldn't get a refund.

Now in prison, the convicted killer - Tremayne Durham - is using the courts to get the refund. And he's having success.

Facing eviction and the loss of his business, Rob Chambers can't afford a lawyer so he's going to fight this convicted killer on his own, in court.

Durham still wants his money back, all $18,000 - even after he confessed to murdering Adam Calbreath. Calbreath was someone Chambers considered as a loyal friend.

"He protected me, and gave the ultimate sacrifice to me," Chambers said. "I don't know how to repay it."

Durham is serving 30 years for murdering Calbreath and taking Chambers hostage while shoving a gun in his stomach.

"He had said, 'Look at what you made me do,'" Chambers recounts. "He said, 'I've been robbing and killing people to get to you.'"

Now Durham is going after Chambers again, only without a gun and with a lawsuit. Durham is even demanding reimbursement for his travel expenses from New York - for the trip he took to gun down Chambers' friend.

Since the murder, Chambers said he has suffered unending guilt and grief.

"I lost my abilities to function; that's what makes me the most angry," Chambers said. "One of these days he's going to get the feeling he won somehow over me."

Chambers escaped from Durham in 2006, but says he doesn't feel alive.

"There are days that I honestly wish he would have pulled the trigger," Chambers said. "He doesn't deserve the satisfaction of knowing this, but he took my life."

Since Chambers did not respond to letters from the court, an arbitrator already has ruled in Durham's favor. But it's not over. Chambers plans to be at a hearing Wednesday to face Durham once again, in court.

"I'm not going to be the victim in this anymore," Chamber said.

Durham made international news for his unusual plea deal in 2006. He agreed to plead guilty in exchange for his favorite foods from KFC and some Haagen-Dazs ice cream.

Chambers said the deal felt like a slap in the face and wishes Durham had been forced to face the family of the man he murdered.
]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials ThorHammer http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56841-now-takes-some-balls.html Metalica kicks in 50k for reward http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56833-metalica-kicks-50k-reward.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:40:57 GMT this is in conjuntion to the disappearance of a Va Tech student that went missing during the show in Charlottesville Sat before last. no link but I heard on the radio that the guitarist/singer called the father of the girl the other day offering... this is in conjuntion to the disappearance of a Va Tech student that went missing during the show in Charlottesville Sat before last.

no link but I heard on the radio that the guitarist/singer called the father of the girl the other day offering the money.

I was never was a fan but I have to give them a big hat tip for this.

I fear that there will not be a happy ending to this story. ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials daddio http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56833-metalica-kicks-50k-reward.html Missing child in Florida found dead. http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56771-missing-child-florida-found-dead.html Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:51:31 GMT
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ORANGE PARK - Clay County Sheriff Rick Beseler this morning said the medical examiner's office in Savannah, Georgia will determine Somer Renee Thompson's cause of death later today.

Beseler said her partially covered body was found in a Georgia landfill near the Florida state line. Investigators followed garbage trucks leaving from the neighborhood where she had disappeared Monday, he said.

Her father, Sam Thompson, identified the body of his 7-year-old daughter by a circular birthmark on her shin, reports show.

"There is a child killer on the loose and that's why we are going to catch this person," Beseler said during a televised news conference in Clay County this morning. "This is a heinous crime."

Beseler said investigators searched through 100 tons of garbage before finding her body. "It was a massive undertaking," Beseler said.

He would not release details of the investigation.

Somer Thompson: Found body identified as Somer Thompson -- OrlandoSentinel.com
Goddamn it. Good hunting to the Clay County SO, and please don't feel you have to make too much effort to bring this piece of shit in alive. Something in a hail of gunfire would suit just fine.....

Matt ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials MattLarson http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56771-missing-child-florida-found-dead.html Balloon Boy Saga -- Charges Will Be Filed! http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56703-balloon-boy-saga-charges-will-filed.html Sun, 18 Oct 2009 16:16:03 GMT I think charges in this episode are quite appropriate. What a piece of crap stunt to pull on already overburdened emergency services! :mad:

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'We did this for a show': Family at center of balloon saga facing scrutinySheriff: Charges will be filed in balloon saga

Video:Sheriff: Charges will be filed in balloon saga AP By DAN ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Dan Elliott, Associated Press Writer – 24 mins ago
FORT COLLINS, Colo. – A sheriff said he was pursuing criminal charges in Colorado's "balloon boy" saga, which first sparked fear for the child, then relief that he was OK and now suspicions of a hoax.

Deputies searched the home of the boy's parents Saturday night, carrying away several boxes and a computer.

The parents, Richard and Mayumi Heene, met with Larimer County investigators for much of Saturday afternoon amid lingering questions about whether he perpetrated a publicity stunt when his 6-year-old son Falcon vanished into the rafters of his garage while the world thought he was zooming through the sky in a flying saucer-like helium balloon.

But Sheriff Jim Alderden didn't say who would be charged or what the charges would be. His deputies later showed up at the Heene's Fort Collins home with a search warrant and at least three of them began a search. Sgt. Ian Stewart declined to say what they were after.

Alderden on Saturday didn't call Thursday's hours-long drama a hoax, but he expressed disappointment that he couldn't level more serious charges in the incident, which sent police and the military scrambling to save young Falcon Heene as millions of worried television viewers watched.

"We were looking at Class 3 misdemeanor, which hardly seems serious enough given the circumstances," Alderden said. "We are talking to the district attorney, federal officials to see if perhaps there aren't additional federal charges that are appropriate in this circumstance."

Alderden earlier said the family could be charged with making a false report to authorities — a Class 3 misdemeanor — if it was determined the balloon saga was a hoax. The low-level crime carries a maximum sentence of six months in jail and a $750 fine, with a minimum sentence of a $50 fine.

Suspicion that the balloon saga was a hoax arose almost immediately after Falcon was found hiding in the garage. Heene, a storm chaser and inventor whose family has appeared on the reality show "Wife Swap," and his wife had said one of the boy's older brothers said Falcon was aboard the homemade balloon when it took off.

Alderden initially said there was no reason to believe the incident was a hoax. Authorities questioned the Heenes again after Falcon turned to his dad during a CNN interview Thursday night and said "you said we did this for a show" when asked why he didn't come out of his hiding place.

Falcon got sick during two separate TV interviews Friday when asked again why he hid.

After the sheriff spoke to reporters Saturday, Richard Heene and his wife walked out of his office after meeting with officials for several hours.

As reporters yelled questions, Heene said: "I was talking to the sheriff's department just now." He then walked to his car with his wife and a friend and drove away. It wasn't clear where the family spent Saturday night.

The Heenes have said the balloon was supposed to be tethered to the ground when it lifted off, and no one was supposed to be aboard. The family was videotaping as they tested the balloon, which they said was supposed to hover about 50 to 100 feet from the ground.

The video shows the family counting down in unison, "3, 2, 1," before Richard Heene pulls a cord, setting the balloon into the air.

"Whoa!" one of the boys exclaims. Then his father says in disbelief, "Oh, my God!" He then says to someone, "You didn't put the (expletive) tether down!" and he kicks the wood frame that had held the balloon.

Falcon's brother said he saw him inside the compartment before it took off and that's why they thought he was in there when it launched. Heene said he had yelled at Falcon before the launch for getting inside.

Over the years, Richard Heene has worked as a storm chaser, a handyman and contractor, and an aspiring reality-TV star.

He and his family appeared on the ABC reality show "Wife Swap," and the show's producer said it had a show in development with the Heenes but the deal is now off. TLC also said Heene had pitched a reality show to the network months ago, but it passed on the offer.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_balloon_boy ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Sunshine http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56703-balloon-boy-saga-charges-will-filed.html Sentenced to death based partly on the Old Testament... http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56676-sentenced-death-based-partly-old-testament.html Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:32:25 GMT Just read this: Story (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6877146.ece) WTF? Now, I don´t know anything about the specific crime in question and the guy is probably guilty. But I see a very big problem when a... Just read this:

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WTF? Now, I don´t know anything about the specific crime in question and the guy is probably guilty.

But I see a very big problem when a jury uses the Old Testament to pass sentence upon a person. I know that it was probably just part of their reasoning, but still.... keep religion out of the courtrooms. ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Maddox http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56676-sentenced-death-based-partly-old-testament.html Canadian Fined For Smoking In A Confined Workplace... http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56646-canadian-fined-smoking-confined-workplace.html Wed, 14 Oct 2009 23:03:10 GMT Now, I understand people not liking cigarette smoke. I go out of my way to make sure that my vice doesn’t negatively impact someone else. Even if I was permitted to smoke in my office, I wouldn’t do it. But this is getting a bit ridiculous: ... Now, I understand people not liking cigarette smoke. I go out of my way to make sure that my vice doesn’t negatively impact someone else. Even if I was permitted to smoke in my office, I wouldn’t do it. But this is getting a bit ridiculous:

Canadian Driver Fined For Smoking In His Own Truck

Unfuckingbelievable... ]]> Popular Crime Stories and Trials Steve http://www.uspoliticsonline.com/popular-crime-stories-trials/56646-canadian-fined-smoking-confined-workplace.html