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  • Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

    Would you tell your kids what political philosophy to believe in or will you let them figure it out on their own. I would honestly feel bad in not presenting both sides and let the kid decide. I will, however, make a compelling case for what I believe and tell him why I believe it but I would feel bad if I didn't give my kid enough info to make his/her own choice.

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    Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

    My kids behavior, unlike my own childhood, starts with their morality being instilled by their religion.
    They learn from this religion that you must get your information from different sources, people and history, and try to figure out the closest thing to the truth.
    And, most importantly, how will God record your actions?
    You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen

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      Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

      Great thread, Danny.

      My views differ so much on some things from my husband that we'd have to fight to see who got to tell our daughter what views are what. I don't think we could in fact indoctrinate her nor really promote any idea truly as we never see much the same way. I would be pretty pissed if he just went ahead put his far right views to her without any counter view and he gets pretty annoyed when i even bring up my views at all on the environment, education or science.

      I think also these aspects come up in other issues...like when the two parents are of different religions. I am a Roman Catholic, born and raised, he is, well...not. In fact he and most his friends and some family, can be quite harsh on Catholicism given the problems in the church so my daughter isn't baptized, though he did say he would fully support me in it if i thought it was best to go that route. He is an evangelical so we just raise her a Christian.

      But with the politics, we will give her every aspect and allow her to make up her own mind. With the religion, she already is wise and smart enough to tell us what she wants so on either issue we don't try and ram it down her throat but give her the best information we can, and as she grows up, hope she is happy with the decisions she makes.
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      • #4
        Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

        Easy, I show them both sides, and show them how to analyze things looking beyond the surface that almost everyone stops at.

        Not surprisingly, they think liberals are morons too.

        Looks like the youngest is going to be valedictorian, she's never going to let her sister live that down
        A is A

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          Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

          Originally posted by USCitizen View Post
          My kids behavior, unlike my own childhood, starts with their morality being instilled by their religion.
          They learn from this religion that you must get your information from different sources, people and history, and try to figure out the closest thing to the truth.
          And, most importantly, how will God record your actions?
          How would you feel if they decided religion wasn't the way they wanted to go and they would prefer to be atheist?

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            Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

            Originally posted by Danny View Post
            Would you tell your kids what political philosophy to believe in or will you let them figure it out on their own. I would honestly feel bad in not presenting both sides and let the kid decide. I will, however, make a compelling case for what I believe and tell him why I believe it but I would feel bad if I didn't give my kid enough info to make his/her own choice.
            Yeah, the life-sized Obama statue in your living room, replete with neon halo won't be any influence at all
            You might hope to keep your insurance plan, your doctor, your premium, and your deductible, but Obamacare is going to change all of that for you.

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            • #7
              Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

              Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
              How would you feel if they decided religion wasn't the way they wanted to go and they would prefer to be atheist?
              That's a good question.
              In fact, there are many people in my community who have various issues with their children, including their disbelief in a deity.
              My wife and I purposely have a great relationship with our kids and have spent their entire childhood involved with them, especially in making school a more pleasurable experience than it might have otherwise been.
              And that involves 10 hour dual curriculum school days.
              We always studied Torah in light of secular history, economics, politics and science as there is not really a realm of everyday life that doesn't involve a "Jewish" point of view.
              And we never taught anything as dogma.

              How would I feel?
              I love my kids because that's what parents do; I hope.
              I think if they became atheists without being humanists I would be disgusted.
              If they became atheists? I wouldn't press the issue because that only makes things worse.
              I would always remain hopeful that our example of being good people would make them believe in God again.

              If that doesn't do it, I'll try to focus more.
              You should always have an informed opinion, so after I inform you, please feel free to express my opinion...USCitizen

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                Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                I was liberal till I found out using my brain was fun and became a conservative. So I teach my step kids to look at a issue and investigate.....
                Thank you God for my rights Please Protect us from and forgive the liberals for trying to steal them they know not what they do.

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                • #9
                  Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                  My kids who are now grown and have families were taught to be independent thinkers. To never let anyone else think for them. To be able to ascertain propaganda, and to understand how conditioning is absolutely dangerous. To be aware of the conditioning that they do have, and to observe their consciousness as much as humanly possible. I think there has been some success along those lines and I see them doing the same to their own children.
                  The ego, self image, is the creator of all evil. That is its forte and the curse of humanity. BD

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                  • #10
                    Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                    My kids are aware of my political philosophy and why I believe what I do. But I make sure they understand the other side(s) of the argument and explain, to the best of my ability, the reasoning behind them (I will always play Devil's Advocate on any issue we discuss, to get them to question their own assumptions). I also make sure they understand that people who have different political opinions than I (or they) do are not necessarily immoral or stupid. And finally, I tell them that they should ultimately draw their own conclusions.

                    On the nonpartisan side, one thing I am trying very hard to do is to show my kids how to understand statistics, polls, scientific experiments, etc. because so much of political discourse (and life in general these days) is influenced by these things and if you don't understand how statistics can be manipulated, can't see the bias inherent in certain polling questions and sample groups, or don't know the difference between a valid and flawed science experiment, you will be easily misled.

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                      Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                      Of course I'm going to share my political beliefs with my son. I find it’s necessary to undo the indoctrination that he is receiving in school.
                      "Chaplain Charlie will tell you about how the free world will conquer Communism with the aid of God and a few marines! God has a hard-on for marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"

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                        Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                        I teach my children to think. If I catch the agreeing with me too readily I challenge their statement and view as parroting and knee-jerk reactions isn't thought. Build a moral and ethical base and teach them to grow from there.

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                          Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                          Originally posted by usmc7011 View Post
                          Of course I'm going to share my political beliefs with my son. I find it’s necessary to undo the indoctrination that he is receiving in school.
                          +1

                          It's MY right as a parent to raise my kids and encourage my beliefs and values. When they grow up, they can do what they want and reap the benefits or consequences.
                          Hope and Change = Bait and Switch

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                            Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                            Originally posted by PeterUK75 View Post
                            How would you feel if they decided religion wasn't the way they wanted to go and they would prefer to be atheist?
                            How would feel if they decided to reject atheism and become a Baptist preacher?
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                              Re: Will you / did you indoctrinate your children with your political beliefs?

                              Originally posted by Danny View Post
                              Would you tell your kids what political philosophy to believe in or will you let them figure it out on their own. I would honestly feel bad in not presenting both sides and let the kid decide. I will, however, make a compelling case for what I believe and tell him why I believe it but I would feel bad if I didn't give my kid enough info to make his/her own choice.
                              Of course I indoctrinated them. Just like my parents indoctrinated me.

                              But seriously when my conversations with my kids and other young folks turns to politics I always resort to common sense.

                              I recall a conversation long ago with my son after he reiterated the standard liberal BS about civil rights: 'after the 60's the political parties switched positions'. I asked him, based on his knowledge of families and human nature, did this make sense? He was open-minded enough to think deeply about it and realize that he was lied to.

                              Another conversation about Keynesian economics between my son and a friend became heated. The friend reiterated her college professor's teaching that since the private sector was not spending money, the government had to step in and replace that money with spending in order to keep the economy moving. I simply asked her were that money that was spent came from. "Borrowing" of course. I then asked her what would happen to her family's financial stability if they lost a percentage of their income and in response, borrowed money to keep spending the same amount. That ended the conversation and unfortunately she apparently wasn't open-minded enough to think rationally about it.

                              So I guess I've taught my kids to be open-minded, to think rationally about things and question authority.

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