I think people would be surprised at just how many 'liberals' support full 2nd amendment rights.

Removal of these rights seems to be a goal of only the far left, from what I've seen.

I'm left of center/moderate and I fully support the 2nd amendment.

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"Anyone that needs what they want, and doesn’t want what they need
I want nothing to do with
And to do what I want
And to do what I please
Is first on my to-do list"
-Gnarls Barkley, "Going On" lyrics

Can you name some of these nasty people? I don't know of any.

I'm sure there are those liberals who are ardently against private citizens owning guns but this thread certainly does't reflect it.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

What was that Brady Bill thing about again? Friggin liberal Sarah Brady! JK again.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

Sure - lets just start with the following:

Nancy Pelosi, Ted Kennedy, Dianne Feinstein, Charles Schumer, Cynthia McKinney (ok - she's just an idiot), Sarah Brady...

Do i really have to go on?

If you disagree, please feel free to point out where their stated positions on many things are NOT socialist or communist in nature.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Same here. In fact, I like shooting guns.

Don't forget Sarah Brady's husband. You remember him - the guy that got shot defending Reagan. Oh shit, and lets not forget all those cops that showed up in support of that particular act. Every cop I ever met is a liberal.

I'm sorry that isn't fair. I'm only trying to illustrate the insanity of labeling this democrat or liberal.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

I disagree and actually feel it is up to you to prove those people are fascist/socialist/communist if you are labeling them so. I feel they are just what they say they are, Democrats.

Bemused giggles.

Why are Liberals so against guns?

Well, they aren't really, but the pro-gun people need an enemy so bad that liberals are just assumed to be anti-gun fanatics and attacked accordingly.

Indeed it doesn't really matter if liberals are anti-gun or not. What matters is that pro-gun people have a good target to attack. That's what matters most in all political mobilisation movements.

Rule 1: Demonise the enemy and attack!
Rule 2: Demonise the enemy and attack!
Rule 3: Never think about the issue, just attack!

This simple strategy works for a variety of topics. As long as you have a clearly identified enemy to attack it works well. It doesn't really matter if your chosen enemy actually exists or not.

Just keep attacking your enemy because that is what creates unity for the group, that's what raises funds for the organisation and that's what provides the purpose and goal to encourage the membership.

Just keep attacking. Whether liberals actually oppose you or not is immaterial. Just keep attacking, that's what is important.

Hey Michael. Nice to see you.

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...the government...is caving in...with their specious arguments couched in the...language of civil rights law, and that the churches ... likewise crumbling to...rhetoric which is nothing but heretical sophistry -- ~F Phelps
Platitudes like the one you offer are no different - and no less incorrect - than the jackass part-time Christian who says, "I'm going to heaven because I'm nice to people." It so misses the point.~Impugn

Don't trust a government that won't trust you owning a gun.

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In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. ~Mark Twain, Notebook, 1935

I'll just patiently wait for EricOKC to come back and tell me why those Democrats are really commie/socio/facists

You can disagree all you want, and i dont care much that they are Democrats.

Welfare is socialist on its face.

Nationalized health care is also socialist, and arguably communist.

The entire environmental movement is communist at its core as it assumes state, or at least public, ownership of land.

Gun control - which is unfortunately for the Democrats an issue on which that party has staked its claim - is facism at its finest.

All of the above mentioned people support all of the issues i have just raised.

I am hardly saying the Republican party is any better what with its desire to simply disregard the 4th and 5th Amendments and paying only lip service to the 1st.

What more do you require in the way of proof Sam? Do you even know the differences between modern and classic liberalism? Are you insisting upon believing I am a Republican simply because I disagree with you on virtually everything?

Perhaps you could be so kind as to provide reasoning as to why you do not believe the aforementioned are supporting socialist and communist ideals?

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

Could you point out any self-identified CONSERVATIVES who are pro-gun-control?

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

We obviously don't disagree on everything. We agree completely on the violation of our constitutional rights. I just don't think that welfare, healthcare and environmental issues must be labeled as you like to label them. I see them as good Christian things, help the less fortunate, save the earth. You don't like those things so you call the people who advocate for them, negative names. I just think it's a lame smear campaign type tactic. Just my opinion.