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Old 10-16-2006
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Re: Why are Liberals so against guns? I find that ironic.

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Still no comments from anyone on how the Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Phillipinos, (etcetera) successfully overthrew their oppressive and authoritarian governments without the use of guns?

Kinda takes the wind from the sails of the argument given as to why gun ownership is so politically important... you can't tell me the Red Army was afraid of the private weaponry of the Russian people...
Well, it certainly helps when the government that is "overthrown" implodes from within....
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Old 10-16-2006
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Re: Why are Liberals so against guns? I find that ironic.

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Still no comments from anyone on how the Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, Phillipinos, (etcetera) successfully overthrew their oppressive and authoritarian governments without the use of guns?

Kinda takes the wind from the sails of the argument given as to why gun ownership is so politically important... you can't tell me the Red Army was afraid of the private weaponry of the Russian people...
Why is it then that they even allowed themselves to come under the rule of an oppressive government in the first place?

The idea behind the second amendment is not to overthrow an oppressive government, it is that an armed populace will never come under the rule of an oppressive government in the first place.
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Old 10-17-2006
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Re: Why are Liberals so against guns? I find that ironic.

I think we're slipping.
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