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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Another liberal who can't tell the difference between self defense or lawful exectution and MURDER.

I think you also might need to brush up on your reading skills - I said Che Guevara was a murdering thug, and he was a murdering commie thug.
Excuse me but have these people committed a capitol offense? I don't think so. So much for you being a christian. We now understand that was just wishful thinking on your part. I love it when you post, it lets the rest of us see how far out there the nuts are.
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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

Considering Republicans have had 12 years in control of the Congress, it's pretty obvious whose to blame.
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Considering Republicans have had 12 years in control of the Congress, it's pretty obvious whose to blame.
Bullshit, Democrats have done nothing on the issue either. In fact they are the ones that want to make these people legal, which in the end will only spur more illegals crossing hoping in the next round of debates they too will be made legal.
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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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You got that right. If the child is born in this country because of an illegal act ---

Send the little ones home to Mexico and execute the parents.
Again, why not kill the children? Or better yet, torture them. Don't you think that would be more effective than simply "sending the little ones back" as a deterrent? Not to mention that if you send them back, they'll just grow up and try again. Because, if I didn't know better, I would view your wishy-washy stance and unwillingness to be tough as the product of commmie-pinko-Marxist thinking. Are you a communist?
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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Bullshit, Democrats have done nothing on the issue either. In fact they are the ones that want to make these people legal, which in the end will only spur more illegals crossing hoping in the next round of debates they too will be made legal.
The trick is, stop the employers from hiring illegals after the ones that are already here gainfully employed get amnesty and then the word will spread that there are no jobs for illegals. There goes the problem of more illegals coming across for jobs.

Crack down on the employers and the problem goes away.
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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Again, why not kill the children? Or better yet, torture them. Don't you think that would be more effective than simply "sending the little ones back" as a deterrent? Not to mention that if you send them back, they'll just grow up and try again. Because, if I didn't know better, I would view your wishy-washy stance and unwillingness to be tough as the product of commmie-pinko-Marxist thinking. Are you a communist?
'Communist' is too mild. The sort of thinking that people like rightisright and slon have is really messed up! Landmines and death penalty would be beyond cruel and unusual punishment for the crime committed when if we would just enforce out present laws, there wouldn't be near the problem we now see. As much as I would love to see all illegals out of here, killing or maiming them definitely isn't the way to go about it and it's sick of them to suggest it is.
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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The trick is, stop the employers from hiring illegals after the ones that are already here gainfully employed get amnesty and then the word will spread that there are no jobs for illegals. There goes the problem of more illegals coming across for jobs.

Crack down on the employers and the problem goes away.
Sam that is only what I have been saying since I first posted on this topic. The difference is I would also go after landlords that rent to people that are not in the country legally.
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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'Communist' is too mild. The sort of thinking that people like rightisright and slon have is really messed up! Landmines and death penalty would be beyond cruel and unusual punishment for the crime committed when if we would just enforce out present laws, there wouldn't be near the problem we now see. As much as I would love to see all illegals out of here, killing or maiming them definitely isn't the way to go about it and it's sick of them to suggest it is.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. The "do whatever it takes" mentality and the cavalier attitude toward wanton killing smacks of either sadism or trolling to get a rise out of people.
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Another liberal who can't tell the difference between self defense or lawful exectution and MURDER.

I think you also might need to brush up on your reading skills - I said Che Guevara was a murdering thug, and he was a murdering commie thug.
There is no reason that has basis in reality as to why you should systematicaly execute illegal aliens upon finding them. It doesn't fit the crime. That would be worse than the debate on torturing terrorists. I will say that due and just punishment should be given (evenif that means the death penalty) to those illegals that murder in the states, which there undoubtedly are. Take the recent murder of a Houston, TX cop by an Illegal Alien (who had been deported once before for child molestation). The guy even had an ID! Outrageous. I say lock the guy up for good.

"another liberal"... You are making yourself appear very foolish right now.

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Re: Hispanic States of America

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The trick is, stop the employers from hiring illegals after the ones that are already here gainfully employed get amnesty and then the word will spread that there are no jobs for illegals. There goes the problem of more illegals coming across for jobs.

Crack down on the employers and the problem goes away.
Dead on. If Democrats would be more vocal about that, and less vocal about such shams like a Guest Indentured-Slave Program, then they would get a lot of conservatives on this issue.
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Sam that is only what I have been saying since I first posted on this topic. The difference is I would also go after landlords that rent to people that are not in the country legally.
How would you go after them? Is it illegal to rent to an person here illegally? Wouldn't it be easier to enforce employment laws?
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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'Communist' is too mild. The sort of thinking that people like rightisright and slon have is really messed up! Landmines and death penalty would be beyond cruel and unusual punishment for the crime committed when if we would just enforce out present laws, there wouldn't be near the problem we now see. As much as I would love to see all illegals out of here, killing or maiming them definitely isn't the way to go about it and it's sick of them to suggest it is.
Exactly, Mrs. M. The thinking of types like that who claim to be Conservatives make true conservatives look bad. There is no reason to systematically execute illegal aliens, nor put landmines around the border. We are not the Soviets.
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Re: Hispanic States of America

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Dead on. If Democrats would be more vocal about that, and less vocal about such shams like a Guest Indentured-Slave Program, then they would get a lot of conservatives on this issue.
Hey! So I'm not a complete commie pinko after all!
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Old 09-28-2006
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Re: Hispanic States of America

I found something to agree with W. Bush on and it's this. Illegal aliens. I mean, Bush's plan is the only one that makes much sense to me, from what I've heard of other plans. In fact, this may be the 1 and only thing I agree with Bush on.

Listen, we've got what, somewhere between 2 and 20 million illegal aliens in the US? How in the world can we even make a small dent in this amount of people? We could leave Iraq and Afghanistan and put all 180,000 or so troops along our border and through out areas where illegals live and work , end up living in a police state and we'd still never make much of a dent.

As laid out by the White House The plan makes sense.

Millions of illegals and we think we can just round up a significant portion of them and ship them "home" while building a fence to keep them from coming back? C'mon, that's lunacy.

Accept that they are here. Get them documented and TAXED. Simple.

Or we can go with the "kill 'em all" approach.

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Sorry, X-Man
There are more than 2 ways to tackle this. Nobody has seriously asked for the "killem all" approach or the round em up approach. Many have asked for the law enforcement approach, which is a lot better than Bush's short-sighted blanket amnesty and much easily enforceable.
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