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Old 10-10-2006
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Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

I think Liberalism is the soft underbelly of National Socialism.

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Old 10-10-2006
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

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Yes. Your assertion is silly.
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

This quotation is often cited:

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This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!
Like many popular beliefs, this one is without foundation : http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html

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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

Hitler was definitely for keeping the people of the nations he conquered from having guns, though.

Although that doesn't seem to be a unique position to Hitler by any means.

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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

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Like many popular beliefs, this one is without foundation : http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcbogus.html

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While that quote is oft cited, it doesnt change the fact that NAZI Germany did heavily restrict private arms ownership.

In fact, I seem to remember a certain civil rights group (no, not the NRA, but the JPFO) took out a full-page ad in the NYT back around 1968 or so in which they displayed side by side the 1938 Nazi Weapons Law and the 1968 Gun Control Act and lo and behold, the 1968 GCA is a near verbatim copy.

So, while that quote is bogus, the sentiment behind it is not. Fake but accurate if you would (no, i am NOT condoning the use of false quotes)
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

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And Right Wingers paved the way for him. ----> Enabling Act/Ermaechtigungsgesetz, 1933

Of course a harsh gun control was in Hitlers interest nevertheless.
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

Oh, come on.

I'm all for the right to bear arms, but comparing gun control advocates to Nazis is rediculous. It just makes the pro-gun crowd look no different than those wacky liberals screaming that Bush is Hitler.

Kind of ironic, actually.
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

Yeah Hitler was all about gun control, wasn't he? Just as the freelance militias that destabilized the Weimar Republic and the Nazis own paramilitary groups.
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I heard that Hitler also avoided alcoholic beverages. I think it's safe to say that AA is also the soft underbelly of National Socialism.
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I heard that Hitler also avoided alcoholic beverages. I think it's safe to say that AA is also the soft underbelly of National Socialism.
And he was a vegetarian, and he liked classical music ... not to forget he had a dog.
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And he was a vegetarian, and he liked classical music ... not to forget he had a dog.
Good god! This thing is much more insidious than I thought. Why isn't anyone doing anything?!?
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Oh, come on.

I'm all for the right to bear arms, but comparing gun control advocates to Nazis is rediculous. It just makes the pro-gun crowd look no different than those wacky liberals screaming that Bush is Hitler.

Kind of ironic, actually.
The point is primarily about making people think about the major drawbacks to gun control.

Considering the effect the resistance in the Warsaw ghettos had with just a few armed men, imagine how effective it could have been had even 20% of the Jews been armed and willing to use their weapons. I suspect the holocaust would have never occured and the NAZI party would have been nothing more than an historical footnote.
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The point is primarily about making people think about the major drawbacks to gun control.

Considering the effect the resistance in the Warsaw ghettos had with just a few armed men, imagine how effective it could have been had even 20% of the Jews been armed and willing to use their weapons. I suspect the holocaust would have never occured and the NAZI party would have been nothing more than an historical footnote.
And you're sure the Nazi party wouldn't have used these gun wielding jews to further demonize the Jewish population? Those "nasty, violent jews who hate Germany and attack the government"?

I think you underestimate the brainwashing power of the Nazi party and overestimate the effectiveness of guns against an oppressive government.

Let me just reiterate that I'm basically in agreement with you on the issue of gun rights. I just find this thread to be rather silly.
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Re: Did you know Adolph Hitler supported Gun Control?

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I heard that Hitler also avoided alcoholic beverages. I think it's safe to say that AA is also the soft underbelly of National Socialism.
And he avioded women. Gays are also the soft underbelly of national socialism.
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I think you underestimate the brainwashing power of the Nazi party and overestimate the effectiveness of guns against an oppressive government.
Yea. Even if it would come to a civil war in America where its Government versus gun bearing civilians, the civilians couldnt do shit.
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