Originally Posted by Danno

I am just curious, as really don't know for certain but, this wouldn't be the only border fence in the world would it? I would guess not, but.....

Originally Posted by danielpalos

Where does the bullshit that I am trying to baffle you with begin? Is it that a more market oriented approach is too difficult a concept or that a welfare-state economic model can actually promote the general welfare?

Originally Posted by Billy1382

It is just as much the fault of the US government as the Mexican government, I am not saying the fence is wrong or right, at least someone is thinking of a way to stop it. I hope it's the right way. But look on the bright side, it will create jobs building it, and it is about time Bush gave back, unless of course it will be illegal immigrants building it.

Originally Posted by Gort

Oh lord he has exported his market friendly speech to this thread. Ask him why Mexico doesn't create a market friendly environment in thier own country? I am still waiting for a response to that one.

Originally Posted by Imperator

this is rich........

Mexico May Take Fence Dispute to U.N.

By JENNY BARCHFIELD
The Associated Press
Monday, October 9, 2006; 10:22 PM



PARIS -- Mexico's foreign secretary said Monday the country may take a dispute over U.S. plans to build a fence on the Mexican border to the United Nations.

Luis Ernesto Derbez told reporters in Paris, his first stop on a European tour, that a legal investigation was under way to determine whether Mexico has a case.

The Mexican government last week sent a diplomatic note to Washington criticizing the plan for 700 miles of new fencing along the border. President-elect Felipe Calderon also denounced the plan, but said it was a bilateral issue that should not be put before the international community.

Derbez said Monday after meeting with French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy that it was a "shame" U.S. immigration policy had been used for what he claimed was a short-term political gain in the lead-up to midterm elections in the U.S. in November.

He said he discussed the issue with Douste-Blazy, and planned to bring it up in meetings with his Spanish and Italian counterparts during visits to Madrid and Rome. He vowed to work on the case until the "very last day" of President Vicente Fox's term, which ends Dec. 1.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...900788_pf.html

Originally Posted by danielpalos

They aren't socialist enough.

Originally Posted by WPK

Would you care to explain why illegal immigration is the United States fault?
That is probably one of the most irrational statements I have ever heard.

You blame the United States for people entering this country illegally to find work? UNBELIEVABLE.

Originally Posted by Gort

That is their issue to deal with not ours. Let them create their own market friendly environment.

Originally Posted by Gort

Actually WPK he is right it is our fault. We have laws that are not being enforced, a border patrol that is woefully understaffed, and politicians that allow this because they want votes. Who's fault would you call those things.

Originally Posted by Billy1382

I am just saying like my country, many of the illegal immigrants are a product of the government not dealing with the problem. It is a border, thus if they can cross it illegally, the government was not doing enough on its side. How do you not get what I am saying, nor is it bashing the US, just saying that illegal immigration is cause to by the country being affected. Calm down pal, you stop being so irrational.

Originally Posted by Rick Blaine

So if a Bank Robber pulls off a theft of a bank succesfully its the bank's fault?

Originally Posted by Billy1382

Quite possibly yes. You always ask questions as if there is definites. If you are telling me the government has been handling the situation perfectly than maybe I am wrong. But geez why wouldn't you want those Mexicans in your country seeing as how they are pretty frigin smart. Getting through your perfect security. Because since your government has handled the situation perfectly there should be no logical way for illegal aliens to have entered, thus those who have are like Mexican James Bond's.

Originally Posted by danielpalos

I agree with you. However, to the extent that we share labor market participants, more market friendly public policy could be used to lower costs for the public sectors while improving efficiencies in the private sectors.