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Old 11-09-2006
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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What did Schumer say about gun control other than Casey is pro guns?

I think you are just scared for no reason.
You're kidding, right? You truly are not aware of Chuck Schumer's myriad attempts to trample the rights of law abiding gun owners?

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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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The democrats have had it wrong on guns for a long time. They should leave guns alone. Be more libertarian in that regard. I don't want the gvt in my gun cabinet, my wallet , or my bedroom.
well..I have seen some pretty hot gov't offics workers I wouldn't mind in my bedroom
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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Another interesting question to ask is if they do this will the supreme court finally settle the matter in favor of one way or the other. The supreme court is reluctant to decide on the second amendment, but at some point they will have to do it.
And then we should pick up our guns and start a new government.
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And then we should pick up our guns and start a new government.
And that's exactly what will happen!
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

The 2nd ammendment is clear and concise,
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A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
Personally, I interpret that to mean that the government cannot deny me the right to even go out and buy a fully loaded AH-64 Apache. So, hopefully when the SCOTUS does make a ruling, it agrees with me. Anything else is a travesty.
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The 2nd ammendment is clear and concise,


Personally, I interpret that to mean that the government cannot deny me the right to even go out and buy a fully loaded AH-64 Apache. So, hopefully when the SCOTUS does make a ruling, it agrees with me. Anything else is a travesty.
military weapons would be a different issue....Then again, if you've got the cash, I'm sure you could get one somehow.
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

Yeah, having the cash would be the issue, in my view. Just curious, why would you differentiate between civi and military weapons?
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Yeah, having the cash would be the issue, in my view. Just curious, why would you differentiate between civi and military weapons?
I just personally don't want the rich running around with top of the line stuff....If I can't buy it, I don't want them to have it.
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LOL ! Fair enough!
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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In my mind, the question will become how susceptible the freshmen congressmembers are to arm twisting and quid pro quo demands from the established Democratic leadership.

There can be little doubt that the established Leadership (Schumer, Kennedy, Feinstein, et al) are strongly anti-gun. Feinstein, for instance, has publicly declared her desire and intent to ban all handguns, if she can ever get the votes.

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The problem for people like Feinstein is that while her constituents may be in favor of restricting gun ownership that sentiment does not represent the majority. Look I think we can agree once a member of Congress gets into office they will follow the party when they can with one exception. If their consituents make their opinions known they will generally follow those wishes unless they plan on committing the political equivalent of suicide. I have never seen any poll ever that indicates a majority of Americans want to restrict gun ownership. There maybe some specific issues like background checks and requirements for gun shows or restricting certain types of ammunition that can find a majority but not the outright elimination of your or my right to own a gun. As long as that is the case Feinstein can't want to do anything she thinks is right, but she is not likely to get the support of even her party let alone the Repubs.

TO me Matt this is simply a scare tactic, just like the pro choice people use partial birth abortion as a scare tactic for their followers. I personally have more faith in the electorate even if I do not have that faith in the elected officials.
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

Abortion and same-sex marraige will keep your guns safe, IMO. The farther left dems, I doubt, will use their limited leaverage for gun control when protecting abortion and pushing same-sex marriage will take enough of their time/power and go farther to appease their constituients. Honestly, the Dems could probably do more to increase their support by legalizing marijuana than by abolishing guns. Gun control laws wouldn't make political sense in the near future.
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I just personally don't want the rich running around with top of the line stuff....If I can't buy it, I don't want them to have it.
And pray tell - how is that really different than the laws restricting the poor from owning weapons?

Rights must be equally protected for all, or they really exist for none.
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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What did Schumer say about gun control other than Casey is pro guns?

I think you are just scared for no reason.
You're kidding right?

Oh wait - nobody's done a song or a movie about this particular thing so it isnt real to you.

Believe it Sam - Schumer is rabidly anti-gun. If you desire proof, just let me know what you'll accept.
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And pray tell - how is that really different than the laws restricting the poor from owning weapons?

Rights must be equally protected for all, or they really exist for none.
I'm not aware of any laws restricting guns to the poor.

I agree about the rights, I was only joking when I said that the rich can't buy weapons that I can't afford.
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