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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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Sometimes at night when I hear gunshots, I think about banning guns.
Your emotional reaction is one of the reasons why the founders of this country gave us the 2nd amendment.

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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

Guns don't kill; it's the one behind the gun that kills that you should be afraid of. If you take away guns, they will just find something else to kill you with. What's the point?
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

About 20ish percent of the democratic congress are gun fans and would never sign off on banning guns.

No need to worry.

They will never have the majority on this issue. (Not anytime soon at all, anyway...not unless they lose that 20% who are all for guns and are members/supporters of the NRA)
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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Sometimes at night when I hear gunshots, I think about banning guns.
Sometimes, at night, when i read stuff like this, i think about requiring people to pass a literacy and logic test before being allowed a computer.

Arent you glad you have the 1st Amendment to protect your emotional attacks on the 2nd?
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Guns don't kill; it's the one behind the gun that kills that you should be afraid of. If you take away guns, they will just find something else to kill you with. What's the point?
Your last two posts (this one and that silly one about banning guns because you've heard a gunshot) seem to contradict each other.

Do you have a position on this or are you simply spewing blather?
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

If you cannot make the connection, then you really need to refrain from telling me that I am the one who needs a literacy and logic test.
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If you cannot make the connection, then you really need to refrain from telling me that I am the one who needs a literacy and logic test.
I didnt tell you that you needed to. I was pointing out the absurdity of your position.

You seem to have missed that connection yourself. Perhaps you could be so kind as to point out exactly why you are taking two contradictory positions?
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Re: Dems win sooo how long until gun bans ?

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Sometimes, at night, when i read stuff like this, i think about requiring people to pass a literacy and logic test before being allowed a computer.

Arent you glad you have the 1st Amendment to protect your emotional attacks on the 2nd?
The comment seemed pretty literate, no obviously bad spelling, punctuation or grammar....so what's your point ?
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I didnt tell you that you needed to. I was pointing out the absurdity of your position.

You seem to have missed that connection yourself. Perhaps you could be so kind as to point out exactly why you are taking two contradictory positions?
What's your deal, dude? I would appreciate it if you could state things in a tactful manner. We are adults; not highschool kids.

Now, let me explain this... I stated that guns don't kill people; it is the people behind the guns that do. Guns certainly don't shoot themselves. The gang members and punks do as well as other loonies (excluding the act of pure self-defense, which does not consist of vengeful defense). Now, my point was that if we take away guns, they will just find other ways to kill you. Therefore, when I hear gunshots at night, I think about banning guns, but it's almost useless. I think there needs to be more PEOPLE control versus gun control. The problem isn't the guns. It's the asshole behind the gun who wants to kill people with it.
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Oh.....THAT was precious....considering the source. Very amusing.
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Oh.....THAT was precious....considering the source. Very amusing.
And I attacked someone with insults... when? I have zero warning points kiddo. Sorry.
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What's your deal, dude? I would appreciate it if you could state things in a tactful manner. We are adults; not highschool kids.

Now, let me explain this... I stated that guns don't kill people; it is the people behind the guns that do. Guns certainly don't shoot themselves. The gang members and punks do as well as other loonies (excluding the act of pure self-defense, which does not consist of vengeful defense). Now, my point was that if we take away guns, they will just find other ways to kill you. Therefore, when I hear gunshots at night, I think about banning guns, but it's almost useless. I think there needs to be more PEOPLE control versus gun control. The problem isn't the guns. It's the asshole behind the gun who wants to kill people with it.
Sorry - real life isnt tactful, and frankly when someone makes comments indicating they are taking an anti-gun position, my responses are quite likely going to be quite blunt. I take offense when someone advocates restricting my rights.

If you meant that you realized that banning guns was useless, as it was people that were the problem, then you should have said so. Your original comment said that you think of banning guns. Thats the only information you gave. You follow this on with a statement which completely contradicts your prior anti-gun stance - which is frankly rather consistent with the anti-gun position. There is a demonstrated acknowlegement by the anti-gun crowd that while they know banning guns wont solve a thing in the way of crime, they still want to do it anyway.

I am sorry you are offended by bluntness and sarcastic dismissal of your position, but perhaps you should also consider just how incredibly rude the entire anti-gun position is to those of us who support the entire Constitution - not just the bits and pieces which make us feel good.
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The comment seemed pretty literate, no obviously bad spelling, punctuation or grammar....so what's your point ?
One can express very illogical concepts in a quite literate fashion.
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And I attacked someone with insults... when? I have zero warning points kiddo. Sorry.
I never insulted you. Pointing out the lack of logic in your comments is not an insult, anymore than telling you that 2+2 does not equal 5 is an insult.

When did we as a society reach a point where someone's feelings mattered more than the facts?
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One can express very illogical concepts in a quite literate fashion.
No doubt, but you said there was a need for a literacy test....
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