All that one needs to do is look a little closer! The "scrutiny" of a microscope can reveal many otherwise invisible things! But you gotta take the time- and make the effort- to look first! But that's always been the "problem" of prying liberals. We ask too damn many questions and have a "bad" habit of looking at things too closely!

Gem

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I think conservatives can be pointed to as supporters of excessive imprisonment. Liberals can be pointed to as supporters of rehab programs that fail. Both are not perfect but neither is the justice system. However, I feel as though prison does little beside sparing society from an undesirable for a period of time. Meanwhile, the offender sits among a population of peer offenders that serves only to reenforce their hate for society. When they are released, they are free to repeat the same crime and the cycle continues.
I feel as though imprisonment should be reserved for those who will never be released. For those with a determined sentenced, I think a blend of therapy, surveillance and education can make a better person out of them.
My opinion, then, is that child molesters should be convicted for life as murderers and rapists are.

Why is it leftist aka progressives hate the fact that they have violated more Americans rights then conservatives?
Which party uses fear to push for laws? I believe the leftist aka progressives used that old chant of “got to save the children how many times? To pass laws?
How about the leftist aka progressives chant that they want to feel safe in their homes so the right to bear arms should be banned?
The leftist aka progressives have pushed for more laws to imprison Americans then any conservative.
Which party was in charge when a religious group was attacked and killed? Was not conservatives.
Which party was in charge when American citizens were rounded up and herded into internment camps? Was not conservatives.

Why is it leftist aka progressives cannot make up their drugged crazed mind about people defending big government? Conservatives want to privatize government functions. How is that defending big government?

Conservatives are the ones who want laws against things like drugs, burning flags and gay marriage.
Conservatives are usually the paranoid who need guns because everyone is a criminal to them.
Dont get me wrong, I support the right to have a gun and would fight any attempt to thwart the constitution.
Police are usually the ones who bear the burden of gangs having machine guns, ak-47's, you name it. This has been the contention. It has been blown out of proportion by the opportunist NRA and paranoid conservatives.
Police simply do not want to be out gunned by gangs. Is that difficult to reason with?
Well, when you are a cop, I suppose you would understand.
Ultimately, your rights are NOT affected when gun legislation is requested to stop the selling of military grade guns to gangs. I would only ask that you put yourself in harms way of these thugs with rocket launchers, then make a point about the banning of certain guns for the safety of all.
By the way, I do own guns. I also have an ACLU card. Go figure.

So, do you think it is legal for these "machine guns" to be sold to "gangs" as things currently are? Is there some law we desperately need to stop this lawful trade in machine guns to street gangs?

Rocket launchers?

You you also have a Hyperbole Club card?

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I thought this was about how conservatives want to lock people up and not gun control. What laws are conservatives demanding that would put people in a prison?
Flag burning? Every when it was illegal it was a misdemeanor. Seldom do you get prison time for that crime.
Homosexual marriage? How many people are in prison for that?
Drugs? How many people are in prison for that? A lot of the people doing time for drug arrests plead down to drug charges to get the violent crimes charges dropped.
The majority of the people I know arrested for other violate crimes later plead down to drug charges because the sentences are shorter. But now a conservative AG for our county is not going to do that any more. That means more people will now be charged and convicted for the original crime and not plead them down to softer drug charges.
Believe it or not most violent criminals generally have illegal drugs on them when arrested.

Oh and stop watching hollywood movies about gangs and guns. With the exemption of the LA bank robbery I cannot recall one incident of a gang using a machine gun to commit a crime. Oh the LA bank robbers were not a gang.

You've got to be making this shit up as you go along...

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Although this is often true association doesn't always imply causation. The vast majority of soft drug users are not criminals other than the fact they are in possession of illegal drugs.

Gem

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Remember Al Capone, of prohibition fame, and the St. Valentines Day Massacre?

Gem

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"Reality, the left-wing liberal conspiracy. "
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Again this thread is about a leftist aka progressives crying about conservatives locking up Americans.
I pointed out that leftist aka progressives have imprisoned more Americans citizens illegally then any conservative all in the name of making America safe.
Gee this happened when? Back in the 1920's.
You may want to read up on the 1934 NFA law.
AK47 tells it all. Tells the name of the firearm maker and the year the USSR military adopted it as a firearm issued to the troops.

The gun control opponents are the reactionaries crying over the legislation to ban certain types of guns that clearly are not needed unless you have a cemetery of zombies running after you.

Let me ask you again, would you feel safe knowing the next town over might have gangs equipped with uzi's and this gang cant be stopped as easily as they could if they did not have uzi's? The cops are the ones who have to step in between you and them and they want to live just as much as you do.

Know what i mean?

I really don't know what to say about this thread, except that all the retarded comments I've ever seen on this forum are localized in this thread. It's sad, alarming, and incredible at the same time.

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"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

You do not want to talk about “The American Gulags”, you now just want change the topic from the simple fact that leftist aka progressives have violated the rights of more Americans then any conservative could to gun control.
Sure do, you just want to spew gun hater lies.
Give us one recorded incident of gangs using UZIs. Now are you going to be able to produce a recorded incident of gangs using full auto UZIs or semi auto UZIs?
Where does the 2nd amend mention “certain types of guns“?

DHard, there were 110,000 Japanese interred in interment camps in WWII
Japanese American internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Report released in 1999 shows 1.8 million inmates in America's prisons.
There was a seven-fold increase of people incarcerated for non- violent drug offenses from 1978 to 1996.
http://www.justicepolicy.org/downloa...toffenders.pdf
1998 was the first year that America had more than one million non- violent offenders in its prisons.

Now what was that you were saying, DHard?

You might to read the "justicepolicy.org site, DHard- it's pretty interesting.

Gem

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Gee now we have a leftist aka progressive claiming only conservatives pass laws that people are imprison for.
The leftist aka progressive is comparing criminals incarcerated for violating a law to American citizens rounded up and herded into internment camps for nothing more then just having Japanese, German, or Italian ancestry. WOW that is some logic for you.