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Re: Dumb@ss Deserved Death
If someone is carrying a gun, they should be properly trained in the use of deadly force. If they're properly trained in the use of deadly force, they know it's not appropriate to shoot someone because an egg was thrown at their car.
I would've pulled over, chased the little fucker down, and beaten his ass. The person who shot him should, and hopefully will, be charged with murder. And, if you're wondering, I'm a gun owner, and I've been properly trained in the use of deadly force...
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First of all, I'm fairly confident that you know nothing about this child's parents. I believe that my parents taught me upright ethics, and I still did stupid shit around that age. One of those values I was taught had to do with withholding your judgement of other people because there is little way of truly knowing their position in life - I guess you never learned that one. Secondly, you failed to note that the article provided clearly says that the SUV chased the boys and fired indiscriminately at them. Just because one kid died does not mean that the person was only aiming for one, nevermind the one that through the egg (chances are the driver did not even see who threw it - that is part of the prank). And lastly, I find it confusing how you agree with the death penalty for teenage vandals but you believe that murderers of teenage vandals should be praised as civil servants. So vigilantism that conforms to your own values is good, I see. Do you believe in the rule of law? Or the rule of the strong? I'm curious how you are so taken by the character of the shooter, too. That this person killed a young boy because of a prank is not very flattering. Just hypothetically, how would your position change if it was found that the very person you are praising turned out to be a drunk or a drug dealer or a thief or a vandal? A citizen's arrest would have been the only thing necessary here. Detain the kids, call the cops, and explain what happened. Now hopefully this person is arrested themselves and convicted of murder.
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You could at least reserve your pathetic attempts of sarcasm at arguments I've actually made. I've never said thoughts of crimes were prosecutable. Your thinking of the White House.
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My position would only change in the fact that the driver himself was commiting a crime if he were driving while drunk. That doesn't change the fact that the kid was commiting a crime and that if he wasn't shot then he would have gotten away with it altogether. You know damn well that if he was placed under "citizen's arrest" the driver would have faced civil charges and the kid and his friends wouldn't learn their lesson.
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Is having a party in and of itself a crime? Maybe playing music too loud.
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-----hit list. Your attitude is horrendous. (now there are six) Last edited by doniston; 12-08-2006 at 03:26 PM. |
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The kid wasn't a "young adult"! He was barely out of puberty! I'm all for carrying a gun but not to kill a kid for throwing eggs at a car. Sure, he's old enough to know right from wrong but the death penalty for throwing eggs? Get real!
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Now, assuming that this was the kid that committed the crime, the shooter also committed a crime - a much more serious one. What do you prefer? A punk kid that gets away with vandalism or a dead punk kid that doesn't get away with vandalism? Another question: has this really taught the other kids anything? If it did, was the lesson worth it in your opinion? Neither you nor I know what would happen if the driver attempted to perform a citizen's arrest - we do know that this driver opted to commit murder instead, though. At least, that is what any sensible and lawful judge would rule.
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You're not going to worm out of your disgusting statements by insinuating that anyone not on board with you is "slow on the uptake". And, by the way, I'm sure you've given the good folks on the board an ironic chuckle with that particular nugget of gratuitous ad hominem abusive. But that's okay. We'll go slowly for my enfeebled brain. Why don't you explain to me, using basic logic, why children should be executed for misdemeanor crimes. And, since you seem to want the technicality of a crime having been committed to justify your glee at children being blown away, here is a revised list (let us all know what you think): Children J-Walking: Horsewhipping in public. Children caught with marijuana: Hands cut off. Children peeing in the bushes: Castration. Children stealing hood ornaments: Death by garrote. Children getting into fist fights: Burning alive. And, it goes without saying, of course, that all of these penalties should be enacted without the bother of a judge and jury and by whichever citizen happens to be in a position to dole out swift and terrible justice. Any objections to these penalties, for those of us who lack the formidable intellect required to squeal with Christmas-morning delight when a child is shot to death?
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Wow, that's a little over the top. I could see if they were throwing molotov cocktails but eggs? Vigilantism isn't so bad, when the crime deserves the punishment. If the driver had chased the kid down and punched him one good time that'd be more appropriate than popping him in the chest. Or if he wanted to do the right legal thing he could have detained the kid and called the cops. I seriously doubt that a case would go anywhere against the driver for detaining a vandal till the cops show up.
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People having a stance different than my own doesn't mean they are slow on the uptake, however, please explain to me how the following are criminal acts: Quote:
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