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Old 12-11-2006
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Re: Dumb@ss Deserved Death

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Children fist fighting isn't a crime. I understand how your self proclaimed feeble mind is struggling. So yes I would object to one of those.

People having a stance different than my own doesn't mean they are slow on the uptake, however, please explain to me how the following are criminal acts:

These are things you seem to think are criminal acts. I hope to God you don't breed. Question about the curfew one. Is it one of those government issued curfews like they have in Iraq? Is it one of those parental curfews?
You clearly failed to address his post, reino. You still do not want to explain what justifies the execution of a child committing a misdemeanor. Several of us are waiting.
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Children fist fighting isn't a crime.
Assaulting someone else isn't a crime?

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I understand how your self proclaimed feeble mind is struggling. So yes I would object to one of those.
Why is your answer contingent upon my "feeble mind"? Using insults and nonsequitur is a sign that someone is too frustrated to continue making sense. Try taking a few deep breaths and see if the quality of your discourse doesn't improve.

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People having a stance different than my own doesn't mean they are slow on the uptake, however, please explain to me how the following are criminal acts:
I didn't say that failure to eat veggies was "criminal". I'm trying to establish what your set of guidelines is for the summary execution of children. You were the one that introduced the heuristic of criminal behavior, so I modified my set of scenarios to include crimes. I'm just trying to figure out when, in your mind, it is acceptable to delight in the torture and death of children.

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These are things you seem to think are criminal acts. I hope to God you don't breed.
Again with the insults and nonsequiturs. Try to breathe, be calm, and think before you type. I'm certain you will be pleased with the improvement in the quality of your posts.

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Question about the curfew one. Is it one of those government issued curfews like they have in Iraq? Is it one of those parental curfews?
What I was referring to is the almost universal practice of local municipalities having curfews after which time it is illegal for minors to be outside. Any child outside after this time is committing a crime, so I assume you believe that they should be shot or possibly tortured by whoever happens on them in such a state of affairs.
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Vigilantism isn't so bad, when the crime deserves the punishment.
While I agree with most of what you said, I object to this sentiment. Vigilantes basically short-circuit the trial process and basically remove the rights of the accused. While no one loses any sleep when a sexual predator, for example, is gunned down, it is still a bad precedent. People taking the law into their own hands are certainly not infallible and may wind up meting out "justice" on the wrong person.
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Re: Dumb@ss Deserved Death

drgoodtrips, if you don't like being called feeble-minded, then you shouldn't have called yourself so. Check post number 28 in this thread.

What justifies death for this misdemeanor? The shooter got the idiocy bug out of the gene pool. Obviously this is the type of kid who got away with whatever he wanted. He had no respect for the rights and property of other people. Nipping a problem in the bud.
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drgoodtrips, if you don't like being called feeble-minded, then you shouldn't have called yourself so. Check post number 28 in this thread.
I don't mind it, to be honest. Juvenile namecalling makes you look silly to anyone reading, which I find entertaining. So, by all means, substitute vitriol for reasoned debate - it makes your discourse deliciously ironic.

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What justifies death for this misdemeanor? The shooter got the idiocy bug out of the gene pool.
So you believe that weeding "idiocy" out of the gene pool is a noble goal? You certainly have some historical notables in your camp on this one, like Adolph Hitler and proponents of the Eugenics movement.

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Obviously this is the type of kid who got away with whatever he wanted. He had no respect for the rights and property of other people. Nipping a problem in the bud.
By summary execution? So, is it safe to say you believe that children should be shot whenever they exhibit mischevious behavior? There are certainly a lot who do - more than vigilantes can keep up with. Do you believe we should start death camps for these children, to weed them out of the gene pool and nip the problem in the bud?
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Well I never vandalized other people's property. Wanted to, but never did.
You're the abnormal kid. Now you're frustrated and want to kill people for futile motives. Go get some psychological assistance.
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I finally got to use the ignore feature on USPOL. Seeing the opening post made me sick. Literally.

So, no more Reino. Pheww.
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I finally got to use the ignore feature on USPOL. Seeing the opening post made me sick. Literally.

So, no more Reino. Pheww.

I'm joining you.
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While I agree with most of what you said, I object to this sentiment. Vigilantes basically short-circuit the trial process and basically remove the rights of the accused. While no one loses any sleep when a sexual predator, for example, is gunned down, it is still a bad precedent. People taking the law into their own hands are certainly not infallible and may wind up meting out "justice" on the wrong person.
You mean like the "COPS" do????
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A 14-year-old, who's parents never bothered to teach him the difference between right and wrong, was shot and killed in Ohio. The hooligan, who had nothing better to do, was throwing eggs at passing cars. After he hit an suv, thus vandalizing private property, someone inside shot the boy in the chest. Not only do I approve of this person who killed the teen, if I knew who did it I would send them my personal compliments. S/he was a very good shot. This is why people need to have guns. To eliminate trash like the teen.
This is why we dont want ordinary people to own guns in Europe.....it does more harm than good.
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This is why we dont want ordinary people to own guns in Europe.....it does more harm than good.
The gun didn't kill the kid. It is unwise to try to shift the blame away from the murderer and blame it on an inanimate object.
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The gun didn't kill the kid. It is unwise to try to shift the blame away from the murderer and blame it on an inanimate object.
I blame both.

The guy in the car could not, or would not have killed the kid without a gun. Its a lot easier to pull the trigger on someone than it is to smash their head with a bat, or run them over.
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I blame both.

The guy in the car could not, or would not have killed the kid without a gun. Its a lot easier to pull the trigger on someone than it is to smash their head with a bat, or run them over.
Guns do make it pretty convenient. In the good old days people had to work to kill somebody.
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Great story, it clearly shows why handguns should be banned, because any friggin idiot can buy one, and lose his cool and murder children with it.
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I blame both.

The guy in the car could not, or would not have killed the kid without a gun. Its a lot easier to pull the trigger on someone than it is to smash their head with a bat, or run them over.
Is it? Rage, uncontrollable rage such as this knows no bounds.

By shifting the blame away from the killer, you gloss his crime over. Shifting the blame away makes the crime less horrendous and that is not fair to the victim.
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