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Imagine the outcry from some of our folks here if a US police force had done that.

There would be cries of "fascism"left and right. Well, OK, mostly left.

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So you are in favor of the police being judge jury and executioner too?
I never said that, now did I.
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That seems to be the case. ProUSA doesn't seem to be what his name implies. At least not when it comes to our legal system.
Just because I expect criminals to pay for what they've done doesn't make me anti nothing.
It seems that those who want criminals to get a free pass are the anti ones...
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That's why when he first came on this board and I noticed just that, I was calling him Anti-USA. But I was reprimanded and am not allowed to do so anymore.

partofme, did it seem to you also, that Matt felt the same way prousa feels about this video?
As I said before, you'd love me if you (or one of your loved ones) were ever raped, abused or murdered.
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Re: Spike Strips too wussy? Try the Spanish pursuit termination technique!

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I never said that, now did I.
It was a question. You can tell by the question mark. I was asking you.

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So you are in favor of the police being judge jury and executioner too?
What is your answer?

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Maybe if we treated criminals as they treated others, our problem would go away.
What do you mean by this? Do you mean that the cops should treat the alleged criminals with brutality and violence? Doesn't that mean you believe the cops should be judge jury and executioner?

Please explain.
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Re: Spike Strips too wussy? Try the Spanish pursuit termination technique!

Personally, I think they should've pulled their sidearms and aerated the little fucker...
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Re: Spike Strips too wussy? Try the Spanish pursuit termination technique!

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It was a question. You can tell by the question mark. I was asking you.



What is your answer?



What do you mean by this? Do you mean that the cops should treat the alleged criminals with brutality and violence? Doesn't that mean you believe the cops should be judge jury and executioner?

Please explain.

Sorry, I missed the question mark....

No, the cops shouldn't be the Judge, Jury and Executioner...I should say, on a daily occurance that is.
There has and always be times when a police officer must make decisions and act on them in a quick and accurate manner. Sometimes, this decission envolves taking ones life...I do believe that an investigation should be held afterwards though.

My comment on treating criminals as they behave is this; After someone is found guilty of performing uncivil acts, that person should loose all civil rights and treated "as" a prisoner......Our nation and courts are being overrun by criminals and there are bigger prisons being built all the time. This is a major cost not only on the taxpayers but on our soceity as well because most are repeat offenders.....Our laws are simply to relaxed when it comes to the treatment of criminals and the proof can be found in our news on a daily basis.
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Sorry, I missed the question mark....

No, the cops shouldn't be the Judge, Jury and Executioner...I should say, on a daily occurance that is.
There has and always be times when a police officer must make decisions and act on them in a quick and accurate manner. Sometimes, this decission envolves taking ones life...I do believe that an investigation should be held afterwards though.

My comment on treating criminals as they behave is this; After someone is found guilty of performing uncivil acts, that person should loose all civil rights and treated "as" a prisoner......Our nation and courts are being overrun by criminals and there are bigger prisons being built all the time. This is a major cost not only on the taxpayers but on our soceity as well because most are repeat offenders.....Our laws are simply to relaxed when it comes to the treatment of criminals and the proof can be found in our news on a daily basis.
Thanks for the answer, this is much more clear and contradicts your other statements.

The reason our prisons are overcrowded is due to too many people in jail for drug crimes. Drug users should go to rehab. Jail does not cure them of their drug habit. If drug abusers were not overcrowding our jails, there would be more room for thieves and violent criminals.

Our laws are not too relaxed and the proof can be found in our prisons. The USA has more prisoners than any other country.
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Thanks for the answer, this is much more clear and contradicts your other statements.

The reason our prisons are overcrowded is due to too many people in jail for drug crimes. Drug users should go to rehab. Jail does not cure them of their drug habit. If drug abusers were not overcrowding our jails, there would be more room for thieves and violent criminals.

Our laws are not too relaxed and the proof can be found in our prisons. The USA has more prisoners than any other country.
I'm not sure where I contradicted myself.

If you feel that building more prisons to house more and more criminals is "tough on crime", then I am just amazed. Remember that when ¼ of your paycheck goes towards supporting these bastards.

While drug crime is up, there are many in prison for rape, murder, abuse, use of weapons, child molestation and etc. These are the people that need to disappear.

I’m not sure why prison cannot be considered rehab? After all, they are in there long enough to dry out, and they should then seek help on their own….Forcing one to rehab doesn’t do any good, they need to want the help.
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Are you sure? I know you are not supposed to shoot somebody in the back if running away.
Says who? In some states, and under certain circumstances, a private citizen can feel free to stop a fleeing felon with a shot to the back.
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What if cops just used civilized means of catching and arresting felons instead of brutality and violence?

Too difficult?

Prefer the easy yet brutal and bloody way?
And what if the moon was made of green cheese?

Samantha, believe it or not, violence is sometimes not just an acceptable option, but the only option. Oerhaps on planet Sam, where everyone loves everyone else and you all walk around in the land of pink fuzzy bunnies, violence is unheard of, but here on planet Earth it is a normal part of life.
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Re: Spike Strips too wussy? Try the Spanish pursuit termination technique!

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Oh, and shouldn't you be waiting for the bikers version of the story ?
You must admit Matt, WarOnIgnorance touched you there, LOL. Isn't that your standard line?
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Thanks for the answer, this is much more clear and contradicts your other statements.

The reason our prisons are overcrowded is due to too many people in jail for drug crimes. Drug users should go to rehab. Jail does not cure them of their drug habit. If drug abusers were not overcrowding our jails, there would be more room for thieves and violent criminals.

Our laws are not too relaxed and the proof can be found in our prisons. The USA has more prisoners than any other country.
Does the OP have anything to do with a minor drug posession crime? No - it is dealing with the very obvious crimes of robbery and kidnapping. Your argument is specious.

For the record, i agree with you on drug laws.
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Re: Spike Strips too wussy? Try the Spanish pursuit termination technique!

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You must admit Matt, WarOnIgnorance touched you there, LOL. Isn't that your standard line?
Im pretty sure the biker's version can be summed up as "Oh shit! This is gonna hurt!"

Spike strips would have had much the same result.
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The reason our prisons are overcrowded is due to too many people in jail for drug crimes. Drug users should go to rehab. Jail does not cure them of their drug habit. If drug abusers were not overcrowding our jails, there would be more room for thieves and violent criminals.

Our laws are not too relaxed and the proof can be found in our prisons. The USA has more prisoners than any other country.
Sam, once again you have demonstrated your complete and utter lack of knowledge of the situation. Nobody, but nobody, goes to prison for drug use alone. They go to prison for dealing drugs, and by the time they get into a prison, their resume includes lots of arrests for all kinds of crimes. The number of people that go to prison on a first offense is infinitesimal.

Why don't you call your local prison warden and arrange for a tour of the facility? Then you can go nose to nose with a few and see how much compassion you have after that.

Law Enforcement just happens to be my profession, and if you knew how little you really know about it, you would hang your head in embarrassment. You just keep repeating what some other ignorant idiot told you. Stop making a fool out of yourself and do some research BEFORE you open your mouth.

Sometimes a LEO has to make decisions in a fraction of a second that may cost a life. It just goes with the territory. Unfortunately, you have the luxury of 20/20 hindsight, and lots of time to disect the action.

Oh, and Matt... Thanks for the greetings.
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