http://www.break.com/index/spanish_c...aken_down.html

Imagine the outcry from some of our folks here if a US police force had done that.

There would be cries of "fascism"left and right. Well, OK, mostly left.

Matt

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That's sweet...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

You might be referring to me here.
In this case I would call it attempted murder by the cops. And the Guardia Civil of Spain most definitely uses fascist methods. Their latest coup doesn't date that long ago and they were Franco's stormtroopers.

I note for the record that for you a jaywalking Oxford don is equal to someone who held people hostage and claimed to have a handgrenade.
It's exactly this kind of blind support for authority that is now discussed in the other thread.

Oh, and shouldn't you be waiting for the bikers version of the story ?

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Did you maybe miss the part about him robbing the bank and taking hostages? Those are felonies. It's perfectly acceptable to use deadly force to stop a fleeing felon. A tip of the badge to the driver of the car.

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Why do so if you can achieve the same effect without putting his life in danger? Yes he did some terrible things but is that a reason to throw ethics out the window and just do whatever feels right at the time?

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The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

That was sweet.
The guy deserved it, to bad he didn't die.

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Anyone who thinks freedom comes cheap, please put the blindfold on and stand against the wall.

Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

That's what the overhead voice claims. Prove it. The video doesn't show hostages or anything. Could be anyone on that bike.

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Hillel the Elder

He robbed a bank and took hostages.

I don't particularly give a fuck what he might have to say...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

How uncivilized.

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The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

I note for the record that you pulled that "equivalency" directly out of your rear end and that I never said any such thing.

Please don't invent things for other posters - it just makes you look foolish.

Matt

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God help us if the police did that here and the fleeing criminal happened to be part of a minority group.....we'd never hear the end of it.

But thats a great video.

Oh, I got more where that came from.
Apparently you searched high and low to find an example of European police brutality because in the other thread you alleged there was some importance in the fact that one was in the USA. So you presented this one expecting in this case the police would be defended because this case is in Europe.
This is clearly deducible from the remarks in the opening post.

In the other thread you refused to even acknowledge it having occurred despite the evidence given by someone with almost unsurpassable credibility. In this case though, the credibility relays on a news anchor for crying out loud. The news item itself can very well be edited from several unrelated sources. The origin of the video in question is most arbitrary too (www.break.com).
Yet in this case, contrary to the other thread, apparently you had all the confirmation you needed to present it as a genuine event. An obvious case of double standards.

As you give more credibility to this case, and state in the first post: , you are indeed putting the two events in the same category and thus are de facto equating the respective police brutality victims in that capacity. A logical deduction.

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that fricken rocked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't bother - I am not at all interested in discussing the things you wish I had said.

ROFLMAO. What a load of crap.

I stumbled on that clip on a video site. I was not searching "high and low" for anything.

Your powers of deduction are seriously lacking. You have been completely wrong with both your deductions.

I cannot fathom what orifice you extracted that out of, nor the years of yoga it took to pull it off.

Please quote the post where I claimed it never happened.

Failing that, please quit the false statements about my posts.

Maybe you'd like to read my opening post in this thread and highlight where I make any claim as to the veracity of the commentary?

Or, for that matter, where I made any statement supporting the action taken?

But you might notice that I never declared an entire nation fascist because of either isolated event, something you did do.

(and since you denied it in that thread, here it is again, with your own emphasis left intact)

I guess it is pretty easy to make your argument when you feel free to:

1. Invent statements the other person never made, and argue against them, and
2. Deny your own statements when they turn out to by hyperbole.

Matt

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I guess the difference is that our police are not judge, jury and executioner, according to US law.

Whatsamatter Matt? You don't believe in the law?