You carry two guns? What for, if I might ask? Planning to start a mini-war?

And, which are the foreign countries you carry your guns in? I'd be most interested to know ...

As for the rest of the thread, since it's become a gun-rights thread of sorts, yes, I support the right to carry a firearm. Most other countries don't allow it's citizens to bear arms though, at least not without a bunch of lengthy procedures and documentation, at the end of which they may still deny the person the right to carry a gun - unlike the US where it's a fairly simple process.

I sometimes wish that more countries other than the US would be less restrictive regarding guns. Actually, to be honest, there is a FAR greater need for people to own guns for personal protection in many third world countries than there is in the US ... But, as has been mentioned most people in countries other than the US don't own guns unless they are in the police, military or other such occupations.

I don't know that there is a need though to carry concealed weapons as some have said they do - at least not in most instances.

As for the original question, no, I don't carry a gun. Would I if I was in the US where it is allowed? Not all the time and not on my person but certainly in my car if I was going out of town, or on a drive, maybe ...

You'd have to ask someone from Toronto.

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Of course it doesn't help with gun control in a local area - its just silly. Obviously it must be nationwide in order to work and that's just another great example on why the U.S should have universal criminal laws.I think you are dead wrong on this one. The black market prices on guns are very low in the U.S and that is obviously the result of a poor, or rather non existing gun control. It makes a lot of difference for a criminal if he has to pay $1200 (like in Denmark and the U.K.) instead of $120 for a handgun.

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Are you trying to say that there haven't been any cases where legally carrying people have shot at other cars in traffic?

Sounds pretty unreasonable to me.

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It all comes down to this on election day: Are you a racist, or do you look down on spastics?

Are you foolish enough to think universal control of an object, which has already failed a couple of times in the United States [i.e. alcohol and drugs], would suddenly work for firearms? If you're so concerned with the threat of death from a firearm, do you feel the same way about alcohol, which creates MORE violence and death than firearms?

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Because they give an overall wrong impression. Using information is a biased fashion and incorrectly is dishonest. Are you saying that if a third party is portrayed in a dishonest light they shouldn't say anything. BTW, there is no proven correlation between Aussie's stricter guns laws and an increase in crime.

works in most country's where firearms are restricted. You're analogy is flawed too. You can still buy firearms in the UK, Australia and NZ - countries where their are certain restrictions. ALL alcohol and other recreational drugs such as marijuana, cocaine etc are illegal.

The simple fact is, restricitive gun laws disarm only honest, law-abiding citizens. Setting out to commit a crime, a criminal is not going to do so with adhering to gun control laws in mind.

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I think, after years of arguing this with Yanks, that we gonna have to agree to disagree about the pros and cons of gun ownership. Americans love their guns, most of the rest of us in the western world don't see a need for them..

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LMAO. Only I could draw you with my first post.

Giving up the right to own a means of self-defense is just giving up so much of your right to self-determination. Scenarios abound, but let's suffice to say that if a criminal or criminals come wanting, I choose to have to means to give them a little extra for their trouble, rather than just being a sheep led to the slaughter.

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Very damn few. Far less than 1% of permit holders have their permits revoked for committing crimes.

Matt

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You're just lucky I guess

I disagree. It depends on where you live. If I lived in the US I'm pretty sure I'd own a gun because I think US society is inherently more violent than others. I've had this argument with righties on other US gun boards and one answer sticks out more than others - one guy said, basically, 'I live in a violent place and nobody takes my gun.'

And yet the UN survey ranked the UK as being more violent than the US, by a fair bit.

Matt

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An honest enough assessment, but not necessarily a "righty" point of view. Criminals don't take political affiliation polls to determine their prey. They go fo what appears the easiest. They're all for gun control. They WANT John Q. disarmed. Makes their job all the more easier.

Americans ARE more violent. We're raised on it. Disagreeing with doesn't make it go away, and not being prepared to meet force with equal or more force just makes one quite simply a victim.

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Got a link. But I bet it didn't beat the US re homicide