I've never claimed to be.

But I've also never suffered a complete brain-fuck when reading an article, and then tried to blame it on "multi-tasking"...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Kiss my ass.

I missed one sentence. I did go out and try to do some research on the case, 'cause it wasn't clear on my initial scan on the paragraph you linked to.



But, I tire of this. I tire of you, too. So many people who may be perfectly reasonable face-to-face who turn into raging, hemorrhoid-laden, post-goatse assholes when they're behind the anonymity of the 'net.

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Reported.

It was the single most important line in the paragraph. How convenient for you.

Oh, but you were "multi-tasking".

It would be truly surprising if you were able to belch up a more pathetic excuse...

I've yet to attack you personally, nor have I resorted to immature name calling.

Your personal attacks here, though, will not remain unreported...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

What you call dodging is what I call reasoning. The presence of a gun when someone spits on your daughter should not be an influence. That it is, supports my view that the presence of a gun can escalate any situation disproportionately.
I would probably tell him to fuck off and get my kids away from the situation.
Firstly so they may not be caught up in further unpleasantness and secondly so they don’t have to witness their father turn into some macho asshole who cant contain himself and has to make public displays of heroism to confirm his manhood. Some may see that as cowardice I know but I will live with that.


What isn’t funny is how you believe it is quite acceptable, even preferable to carry on like a high school jock in front of ones kids to show how tough daddy is and risk the confrontation potentially turning lethal rather than leave what is a reasonably trivial matter and protect from any real harm.


You love your shit eh?

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Whether or not I was carrying a gun would not be an influence to how I would respond to someone spitting on my kid.

If the assailant decided to then escalate the situation, well, he'd then be doing so at his own peril. I need to be able to assume that anyone who's psychotic enough to do something like that is psychotic enough to be ready to "raise the bar"; maybe the guy's got a knife? If I'm not prepared to counter that, then I'm unprepared at my own peril...

Oooooooooohhhhhh... Someone else who expects to protect his family by yelling at an assailant.

That's a pathetic response...

yeah, I'm sure they'd much rather watch as Daddy gets gutted like a fish when, had he been armed, he could've prevented it...

If someone spits on my kid, that person isn't going to walk away. Period. What you would be showing your kids is that Daddy's afraid to defend his family.

No wonder they have no respect for you...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Really? So in your opinion, there should be no such thing as an independent sovereign nation?

I've told you this before Wallaroo. The 50 states are NOT simply political divisions such as a county or a parrish. They are independent political entities - sovereign nations in fact, who have decided to subjugate certain powers to a central federal government.

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Then why is it so important that “ The way it was presented was one person spitting on your kid, and you have a gun.”?

You are the one who is going to decide if the situation is escalated by going medieval on his ass.

Psychotic = spitting. That could be anything from a dumbarse kids dare to someone who had an issue with the person in question.

No. That is.

My kids would much rather be removed from an unpleasant situation than see me get involved in a violent punch up over something so trivial. And I would not be engendering them with an attitude that everything requires a violent response or that the size of their dick may be questioned of they don’t carry on like a Neanderthal when ever provoked.
If someone spits on my kids they (my kids) will know that whatever I do is intended to minimise the effect upon them. What you would do is show your kids that Daddy’s only way to deal with a situation is to resort to violence.


You know nothing of what they think.
The only way your kids will respect you will be if they respect violence.

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Please discuss the topic and not one another, and do not call other posters names.

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And you made the assumption that I would use it.

That's not a surprising reaction to someone with an unnatural fear of guns...

Again, this doesn't suggest that I would use my gun. In fact, it suggests otherwise, as people in midieval times didn't have guns...

Either way, if they spit on my kid, it will end badly for them...

Sorry, but if someone spits on your kid and all you do is yell at them, you deserve any escalation the offender might decide to bear upon you, even if unprovoked...

Perhaps.

But it's far more likely that they'd prefer to grow up knowing that their father was willing to defend them as opposed to running away every time a difficult situation presents itself...

No, you'd be engendering them with the attitude that they should grow up as cowards...

Your children will view you as a coward, and someone who, perhaps, they should not rely on when the goin' gets tough...

I have a strong suspicion...

Hardly.

My daughter has grown up knowing that you have to stick up for yourself and your family.

Your children, clearly, will not be burdened with wondering whether or not you'd defend them...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

As usual you miss the point. You would. You would escalate the situation without any concern as to how far it would go fully prepared to use your gun.
No, its not surprising considering you said -

“Because, frankly, I'd hammer the guy in the chops as hard as I could...”

Then -

“Now, here's the thing: if I do, and if it the confrontation escalates to the point where I "need" to draw my gun, I'd damn well better have it with me.”

Oh, and I am not scared of guns (not that I consider that to be necessarily a bad or good thing). It’s just that my level of exposure doesn’t meet your requirements for a brave and masculine gun owner.

Nevertheless it will be you who decides how the situation plays out by your reaction. If someone has initiated such an act unprovoked, it would be a reasonable assumption that when provoked they may at least match it if not escalate it. If one of the parties possesses a mental capacity higher than the other it is he who is able to decide where the confrontation goes.

Why would I deserve such consequences?

Defend them? From saliva? You seem incapable of discriminating between different levels of threats and perils yet expect us to believe you are responsible enough to make decisions about how to react to given situations. While one may feel the desire to beat another’s head in for spitting on ones child it is on balance an unnecessary reaction that could cause unnecessary further and worse harm.
There is no doubt it would be hard to walk away from that situation but I hope that is what I could do. My ego and pride need no such stroking. And I said nothing about running away every time. But your need to marginalise me as a cowardly weakling to support your bellicose rhetoric requires it I suppose.

The opposite of which is to engender them with the attitude to grow up as irrational over aggressive meat heads.

Well as one is nearly 15 and the other 10 and they don’t yet I guess time is running out for your theory to be proven. In a few years they will be able to make their own decisions about how to react in such situations. I have raised them with the same philosophy you find so repugnant yet they have never said anything to make me think they think of me as a coward (such a typically subjective word). And in reality there are far worse things they could think of me than that. As I said I don’t judge my self on how violently I can react and neither do they. Nor is my ego so important to me. And I often think of myself as being insecure.

I can ignore that easy enough.

I will leave your kids out of this.
You complete reliance on supposition and unerring belief in your own greatness has you arguing in moronic generalities and clichés. My children stick up for themselves in a way that makes me proud and confident as far as anyone can be (well anyone with only one helping of confidence anyway). They also posses a level of reason when called upon that puts my mind at ease. I don’t have to fear that they will get themselves into a situation that is out of control because they thought about everything with their gonads or how bravely others will view them.

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HAHAHAHAHA! Word...

No concern??

You obviously know nothing...

First, not reacting to his act isn't an option. It's cowardice.

Second, if he pulls a knife, I'll be up Shit Creek if I don't have my gun. If he doesn't pull a knife, my gun stays where it is.

You seem to assume that I'll pull my gun at the first hint of trouble. I wouldn't...

Your posts here indicate a rather paralyzing fear of guns. That you're not brave and masculine, though, has nothing to do with that fear. It's likely just how you are...

Right.

Of course you don't place any blame on the assailant. Another cowardly trait.

Here's something to consider: If my daughter and I are approached, unprovoked, and my daughter is spit upon, hasn't the assailant already escalated the situation?

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that the spitter is at fault, or that he would be the recipient of an unprovoked attack if I decided to escalate the situation?

Really?

So if my daughter and I are just walking along, and someone spits on my daughter, has not the "spitter" already decided that the confrontation is escalating?

Yes, he has.

And that's what you consider a "higher mental capacity"??