Originally Posted by Wallaroo

I wouldnt like to live in California either - too many fucked up people.

Originally Posted by Steve

Of course you do. You want to know that you can spit on someone and then scurry away unscathed...

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

What the hell are you talking about? I merely pointed out that I wouldnt live in a state with so many fucked up people as Califuckingfornia - just like that asshole you met on the parking lot the other day.

Originally Posted by Steve

He wasn't an "asshole", as far as I know. He was just some probably somewhat mentally deficient homeless guy who spends the majority of his day arguing with trees. We just happened to cross path.

Interestingly enough, despite being armed at the time, I didn't shoot him...

Originally Posted by AdrienXII

How very chivalrous of you.

Originally Posted by Steve

Well, people like Wallaroo are of the opinion that people like me would go guna-a-blazin' in such a situation.

I was merely pointing out the fantasy of such a belief...

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

Im gonna ask Bush to reward you with the Congressional Medal of Honor for not shooting at people for one whole day.

Originally Posted by Steve

Does the breadth of your ignorance expand any wider?

Originally Posted by Wallaroo

About as wide as the road below.

Originally Posted by Steve

So you suspect that your reaction might be physical; and one might say even a violent, one. Tackling someone could easily be considered a violent act, especially if the person falls wrong and breaks a bone or bites some pavement...

Originally Posted by Steve

Who's suggesting an "ultraviolent" reaction?

Originally Posted by Steve

I'm certainly not.

Originally Posted by Steve

An "ultraviolent reaction" would be if the guy looked at my daughter in a way I didn't care for, and then I blew his head off. I haven't come close to suggesting anything like that...

Originally Posted by Steve

THis is often the position of the liberal pacifist.

Originally Posted by Steve

You seem to think that, if someone reacts, they'll go from 0 to 100 in nothing flat

Originally Posted by Steve

I'm unconcerned with how anyone perceives my masculinity. I have nothing to prove.

Originally Posted by Steve

And you would allow someone to spit on your family.

Originally Posted by Steve

It might "seem" that way in the eyes of someone who has an unnatural and paralyzing fear of firearms...

Originally Posted by Steve

I don't think Hitler ever actually uttered the words "I hate Jews". But it's pretty fuckin' clear that he did...

Originally Posted by Steve

You equate any action as irrational.

That, in itself, is irrational...

Originally Posted by Steve

If someone has initiated such an act like spitting on a child unprovoked, it would be a reasonable assumption that when provoked they may at least match it if not escalate it.

Originally Posted by Steve

You seem to be obsessing. Is this yet another area where you feel the need to quesiton others?

Originally Posted by Steve

You've already shown us how you believe that any reaction, which doesn’t include running away like a scared child, is irrational...

Originally Posted by Steve

Sadly, I've not the kind of free time that you do, so the rest will just be filed under "A" for "Assinine...

Originally Posted by Steve

Well, people like Wallaroo are of the opinion that people like me would go guna-a-blazin' in such a situation.

I was merely pointing out the fantasy of such a belief...

Originally Posted by crisis

But not quite as violent as - "hammering the guy in the chops as hard as you could...”
It’s kinda what I am talking about when you accuse me of dodging an answer. Rational people generally make a decision after assessing a situation as opposed to going in all hot cocked and prepared to beat everyone’s head indiscriminately.


You.


Then your perception of ultra violence is somewhat askew from the rest of us. Concerning that you walk around armed then.


No, that is an overreaction followed by murder. Technically it is ultraviolent however it makes hammering someone in the chops less ultraviolent only by comparison. Stabbing him would be less violent however I would still consider it ultraviolent. Anyway you are splitting hairs by playing with adjectives and merely trying to back pedal and save face. If you make bombastic statements intended to display your masculinity you will be called to account and defend your words.




Cool you got new insults for me now!

Liberal meaning politically aligned or what? You got to understand that not being a conservative American I don’t consider that an insult. Just a bigoted ad hominem. And pacifist! You say that as if it is a bad thing!


Nah just you. You said so.


Then why is it so important that your family thinks their daddy is soooo brave? And why does it concern you to the point of insults that I am such a coward.



You are mixed up. Firstly I have not allowed them to spit on anyone. They have done it according to the scenario painted. All I am doing is assessing what is best for my family after the event as opposed to ensuring they see how much of a tough guy I am at the time. I can not remove the spit by beating the guy so what will I achieve. I am not sure I will “teach him a lesson” as that behaviour will generally come someone who has missed a few lessons in life. All I will be doing is making a show of my self and perhaps letting off some steam. So all of it really would be about me and all I would be doing would be using my families defence as an excuse for my inability to manage my emotions and suppress my desire to be seen as a hero.



I am not scared of guns. Why do you persist in attempts of marginalisation when you have no argument.


Well if I get in a position to send gun nuts off the concentration camps I will accept the accusation.


An action can be to remove your family from the situation. An action need not have to be violent. This concept you struggle with.


Exactly. So what benefit is it to your family or your daughter that you escalate it by your reaction other than to show how brave daddy is?


Yours is the obsession with masculinity and cowardice. I didn’t bring that crap into the argument. I was trying to debate what level of logical consideration should be used. Next you will be blaming me for defending my liberalism.



Where, how?


I know what its like. But it is no surprise you can’t argue any of it rationally. You have already used up all your insults which leaves you with nowhere to go.


No actually your modus operandi is to beat him non violently first. Only if he takes offence to this and joins the lunacy may you be presented with the necessity
(whatever that is in your world) of drawin yer shootin iron.

Originally Posted by Steve

Again, the amount of free time you must have on your hands, to type fuckin' manifestos like the one above, is pretty astounding.

I no longer respond to each of your statements individually not because I can't argue the ratinale presented, but rather because no rationale is presented.

You've not offered a single reason why I shouldn't be armed; not even close. All you've done is expose your paralyzing fear of guns, and raise to great suspicion your willingness to protect your family if required.

If it wasn't so much fun reading the verbal diarreah you belch up, I'd put you on ignore.

But I like a good laugh every now and again...

Originally Posted by Steve

Again, the amount of free time you must have on your hands, to type fuckin' manifestos like the one above, is pretty astounding.

Originally Posted by Steve

I no longer respond to each of your statements individually not because I can't argue the rationale presented, but rather because no rationale is presented.

Originally Posted by Steve

You've not offered a single reason why I shouldn't be armed; not even close.

Originally Posted by Steve

All you've done is expose your paralyzing fear of guns, and raise to great suspicion your willingness to protect your family if required.

Originally Posted by Steve

If it wasn't so much fun reading the verbal diarreah you belch up, I'd put you on ignore.

But I like a good laugh every now and again...

Originally Posted by mawg

heh I do not count people who will not stand up for themselves or their children as worthy of much discussi