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View Poll Results: Do You Regularly Carry A Firearm?
Yes 47 29.94%
No 110 70.06%
Voters: 157. You may not vote on this poll

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I the police aren't carrying guns, they're little more than security guards...
It's all we need.

BTW, did you make any reply to the comment about the vote not supporting your view?
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So anyway...the nutters exist here and they crack up and threaten their bosses, but it's easier to defend against if they don't have a gun.
You're starting to drift all over the map.

First, you say that violent crimes exists primarily in the "subculture". Now you there are people who will crack and threaten people.

If one of these guys doesn't have a gun, but has a baseball bat instead, you're every bit as fucked if you're not armed...
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You're starting to drift all over the map.

First, you say that violent crimes exists primarily in the "subculture". Now you there are people who will crack and threaten people.

If one of these guys doesn't have a gun, but has a baseball bat instead, you're every bit as fucked if you're not armed...
No, you are not.
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It's all we need.

BTW, did you make any reply to the comment about the vote not supporting your view?
What comment would you like?

In the poll, I simply asked "Do You Carry A Gun". There was no "view". It was a simple "yes" or "no" question. I absolutely expected the "no" responses to far outweight the "yes" responses.

I'm not sure what kind of "comment" you're looking with regards to what "view"...
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No, you are not.
Really?

What're you gonna' do?

Call him a name to make him stop swinging the bat?
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Really?

What're you gonna' do?

Call him a name to make him stop swinging the bat?
Really, it doesn't merit debate. It's plain you have more chance against a bat than a gun...

I think I'm bowing out of this now, it's like schoolboy talk IMO. We'll be discussing bat sizes next. No offence.

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It is a frightening thought that any low intellect psychotic is able to carry a gun and shoot innocent people in "self-defence" should he feel like it.
More dangerous than a gun-wielding criminal.
Ah - so now because someone wishes to defend himself he must be insane and unintelligent? Someone who is law abiding is somehow more dangerous than a criminal?
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The will of the people gives them the right. Nobody here is interested in changing the law.
And if 50%+1 of the voters in your country decided that you should be executed for eating grapefruit at your kitchen table in your bathrobe, would you agree that the will of the people is correct?
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BTW, did you make any reply to the comment about the vote not supporting your view?


This poll doesn’t address the topic you’re addressing. The question should have been something more like “Do you believe citizens deserve the right to carry firearms to protect themselves and innocents around them”.

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No, you are not.
Oh really? I assure you, if I, or any averagely built man were to attack you or any averagely built woman with a baseball bat, the woman is going to get very badly hurt, and probably killed.
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Really, it doesn't merit debate. It's plain you have more chance against a bat than a gun...

I think I'm bowing out of this now, it's like schoolboy talk IMO. We'll be discussing bat sizes next. No offence.

Have a good day.
I think what you really meant by that is, you realize you've made a completely indefensible comment and now you're running away.
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Really, it doesn't merit debate.
I suppose if my position were mired in an illogical thought process, I'd say it doesn't merit debate, too...

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It's plain you have more chance against a bat than a gun
You completely missed the point I was making.

Your assailant has a bat. Do you stand a better chance in defending yourself is you have nothing, or if you have a gun?

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I think I'm bowing out of this now, it's like schoolboy talk IMO. We'll be discussing bat sizes next. No offence.

Have a good day.
Your position is so heavy with ridiculous thought, I guess it comes as no surprise that you're running away from the discussion...
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The question should have been something more like “Do you believe citizens deserve the right to carry firearms to protect themselves and innocents around them”.
Thanks, but the question asks exactly what I wanted to know. I was interested in knowing how many people carry guns. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you'd like to ask a different question, start a different thread...
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I think what you really meant by that is, you realize you've made a completely indefensible comment and now you're running away.
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Thanks, but the question asks exactly what I wanted to know. I was interested in knowing how many people carry guns. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you'd like to ask a different question, start a different thread...


I don't have a problem with the question. I was simply pointing out to SF that this poll has little to do with the topic she was raising, and couldn’t be used to justify her position.
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