Got it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Im not a fast runner so thats outta the question. If I had the time I would fire a warning shot just to show them that I mean business. If that doesnt scare them away, then I would give them a serious case of led poisining. I dont think that I would feel bad about killing some worthless street punks/bullies - kinda like Charles Bronson in Death Wish.

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It all comes down to this on election day: Are you a racist, or do you look down on spastics?

This is pretty clear evidence as to why you should never own or carry a gun.

There's no such thing as a "warning shot"...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

[quote=Steve;1117002]Steve, why did you attribute that post to me?, I never posted that, it was another member.

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Yes there bloody are! Its to show the "bad guys" that its a real gun you have in your hand, and that its loaded too.

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It all comes down to this on election day: Are you a racist, or do you look down on spastics?

Yeah - and in the process take the chance of killing some completely innocent person downrange. There is significant civil and criminal liability inherent in such a reckless action.

Matt

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Yeah well with this kind of mentality you can’t blame them! -


"I am of the belief that guns are merely tools, one is responsible for his own actions and some people just need killin'."
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Yeah but she better not expect any of it to be forthcoming from you!

That didn’t take you long. The knowledge you speak of is nothing more than pathetic attempts to justify your desire to own these toys. If scotlandforever could be bothered reading the pages of repetitive crap she would see that you post baseless opinion, assumption and dogma. When this is refuted and real evidence and support are demanded you resort to insults al la “this makes you stupid”.

Not him. As I said above abuse and insults are only a disagreement away. You will note with amusement this ironic passage after what amounted to nothing more than, well actually just nothing.-

“ You've presented no facts and have dismissed widely documented facts as reality. When your pathetic arguments are rapidly and soundly defeated, you throw out diversionary comments. Meanwhile, my record here is self-explanatory and well documented.”

Oh boy did you nail it in that last passage.

Not these guys. The chance of the ever present weapon being deliberately or accidentally misused is considered far less important than the proportionally miniscule chance that one may be confronted in a situation that either requires one or requires one to achieve a suitable outcome. Steve thinks his one incident outweighs any other logical argument.

Run?
I know a bit cowardly for ya huh big fella?!

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Ah why bother posting anymore . With Wallaroo, Steve and EricOKC on the side of gun proliferation my work is done!

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[quote=chassisman;1117133]If you follow the threads back, it looks like the quotes got screwed up a few pages back.

Apologies; it was Scotlandforever who said it...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

No, there aren't.

If you draw your weapon and pull the trigger, if your intent is not to hit a target, you're using the gun improperly.

Seriously, the dumbest thing written, thus far in this thread has been "fire a warning shot"...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Crisis, I can't believe you'd come back to a thread in which you've proven yourself woefully ill-prepared to debate.

You take issue with my answer of "once" when asked how often someone would approach me with the intent to do me harm. Well, hey, tough shit. I used my firearm to defend myself and my wife. Nobody, and I mean nobody, has been able to suggest how we'd be better off now if I hadn't been armed.

Be a victim, though. It fits you...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

So you keep saying, yet you still haven't mentioned why firing a warning shot is so reprehensible. It's a last-chance try at deescalating the situation. Why not try it?

I have said why it's bad: It's the improper use of a firearm. If you fire the weapon, and you're not aiming at your target, what are you aiming at? Where's that bullet going to go?

If I draw my weapon, and determine that I need to pull the trigger, I'm not aiming over someone's head, or off to one side or the other. I'm aiming for the middle of their chest: Double tap, center mass.

I would love to see something that says a "warning shot" is acceptable after drawing a firearm.

I'll thank you in advance for providing that.

Happy hunting...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

It all depends on your ROE, usually. Police officers are expected to use minimum force, and so are civilians defending themselves. So, if you've drawn your gun, why not fire a warning shot? If you're going to shoot someone, why aim center-mass, and not at the legs? And why the double-tap? You're going to run into trouble with the law, if you insist on using your military ROE as a civilian...

There are a couple of problems with firing a warning shot. First, as has been stated previously, it’s a danger to the public as you can’t be sure where that bullet is going to go. Second, it opens you up to lawsuits and prosecution, as it can be argued that if you had the time and opportunity to fire a warning shot your life wasn’t in imminent danger.

Shooting to wound is likewise discouraged by the legal ramifications. Additionally, the state of mind of the attackers is generally not known. People under the influence of narcotics have demonstrated an incredible threshold for pain. Shooting such a person who’s attacking you in a non-vital area may not stop his attack.

There is a reason the police don’t fire warning shots or shoot to wound in such situations.

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