A sporting goods store supplied AR-15s (semi-auto) to the first responders and the SWAT teams used their full-auto M16s when they arrived. FYI the robbers used a semi-auto AK-47, an AR-15 and a HK91 all modified to full-auto. An original full-auto version of the AK or HK goes for $25k+ and are highly prized by class 3 collectors. AR-15s are brainless, common conversions to full-auto while the AK and HK conversions require a competent gunsmith.

Thanks for clearing that up about SWAT.

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Someone who says my "hand was guided by god” (to shoot someone) is. Yes.

Haven’t said that yet but continue to cling to the spin and fabricate what you want to believe is my position. I know you have to keep it simple and personal because you cant argue the facts


Yeah I read it. The delusional lady who thinks god speaks to her shot him first. So in this case it would be fair to say that she may have prevented more deaths. He also may have killed himself anyway, many of these guys seem to take that option at some stage in these massacres.

However whatever outcome came to pass does not dismiss the fact that your gun culture results in more mass shootings than any other country. Your gun culture results in millions of your citizens possessing guns and when some of those millions misuse them you may very well be grateful some of the other were in a position and lucky enough to be able to use theirs to have some impact on the situation.
The logic being not to avoid the situation but to allow it to flourish and hope that you will be able to avoid some of the consequences because others were able to intervene with the same objects that allow the carnage to occur.

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Difficult to argue with that logic.

You say that like defending the lives of innocents is a BAD thing.

Yes, she's a churchgoer, but that hardly earns her the title of lunatic. It simply means she is a religious person who realized she had to do something difficult and believes it was God who helped her through it.
Your position is obvious to all because of your total lack of facts combined with your condescension, refusal to review a single fact presented to you, dismissal of facts as if they didnt exist, etc. You're a stupid reactionary asshole when it comes right down to it crisis. If you had a discussion like this with someone in a bar, for example, you'd end up getting your ass kicked just for the hell of it.
It is only YOU who seems to think she is delusional. I, and many others, would view her comments as quite normal under the circumstances.
You'd know all about dismissing facts wouldnt you?
Thats right, it does. Jealous?
The objects (guns) do not allow anything to occur. It is the behavior of human beings.

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The word "logic" is rarely used when referring to something crisis posts...

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As far as I'm concerned anyone who kills someone for any reason and attributes responsibility for that act to a mythical being by stating my hand was guided by god is clinically delusional.

People who hear voices from or are directed by an imaginary man in the sky and don't respond to psychiatric treatment are commonly diagnosed as being permanently removed from reality and belong in asylums. If she had stated her hand was guided by koko the monkey god to kill someone she'd already be locked away.

So, is it safe to assume, then, that you think she shouldn't have been armed?

If that's the case, do you think the result would've been no more dead curch-goers and, if so, what would you base that belief on?

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And if you and crisis didnt have such a pathologic aversion to religion, you'd realize that her statement was basically saying she's is happy its over and thankful no one else got hurt. I am certain neither she nor anyone else (except religion hating bigots) believes God was really talking to her or guiding her hand.

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Not if she's saying her mythical god made or helped her do it. That rationalization or in this instance termed as delusional praise is a very common criminal defense tactic of successfully pleading insanity when the victim(s) are little children or other innocents. It serves to remove personal responsibility, which is the human factor any honest society requires in logical decisions.

After the fact 'what if' speculation in an occurrence such as this is about as interesting to me as watching paint dry. It's a done deal and nothing will change it in a community with a large percentage of the zombie population devoted to worship of mythical tales.

Religion isn't the issue, we're discussing mental health. Take her statement verbatim, which any court of law would do if she had killed her children, and she'd be declared mentally incompetent. In this instance she should have kept her mouth shut if she didn't mean what she said. I don't hate religion, but do feel if one uses it to avoid personal responsibility or rationalize one's actions delusion is present and dominant in that person.

A religious lunatic? Why? Because she believes that God led her through a difficult situation? I know that God has guided me through some truly devastating things in my life and there's been times that He's told me to do something and I did. No, I didn't hear voices but I did feel it in my heart and knew that it was God telling me what to do. That God gave the security guard direction to end a deadly rampage is of no surprise to me and believing it doesn't make me a lunatic.

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"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and screaming "WOO HOO, What a Ride!"

Wow.

I haven't seen a more nimble dodge since asking Brett Golden a question.

And that's saying something...

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If she had made such a comment if she had killed her children, it may be considered with the rest of the evidence, but that isn't what she did. She shot a man who was trying to kill her and other innocent people.

She's not trying to avoid personal responsibility in any way. You are just trying to find reasons to justify your anti-religion and anti-gun biases.

You cannot take her statement verbatim and in a vacuum, as much as you would like to do so. Her statement, like any other statement anyone makes, must be taken in context - thats how communication works.

Lets look at some of YOUR statements perhaps shall we? You apparently seem to believe the US, or at least Colorado, is populated by zombies. Zombies, as any rational person knows, are purely mythical creations. If we are to apply your own rules of interpretation to your own words, it would appear you have some serious problems with reality as you believe entire parts of the world are populated by something which doesn't exist.

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We all know you're a LITTLE crazy Mrs. M - but in a good way

BTW - love your sig line and your little graphic.

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