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View Poll Results: Do You Regularly Carry A Firearm?
Yes 47 29.94%
No 110 70.06%
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Thats what you would do, and you sound like a very responsible gun carrier to me, but what about others? I hope you aint naive enough to actually believe that most of them are like you.
Look up the statistics on crime committed by people who have concealed carry licenses. No matter how you massage the numbers, you will not find a group of more law-abiding people. Here is a snippet that will help a bit, from the LA Times.
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Look up the statistics on crime committed by people who have concealed carry licenses. No matter how you massage the numbers, you will not find a group of more law-abiding people. Here is a snippet that will help a bit, from the LA Times.
I know they are the most law abiding in the country, but that doesnt mean they arent paranoid, or that they have a superb judgement.

...And you know what I mean!
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I know they are the most law abiding in the country, but that doesnt mean they arent paranoid, or that they have a superb judgement.

...And you know what I mean!
So because there's no guarantee that they all do, we should assume none of them do?
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So because there's no guarantee that they all do, we should assume none of them do?
No, but we should assume that a fair percentage of them have a bad judgement, and are paranoid. Anything else would be fucking naive.
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No, but we should assume that a fair percentage of them have a bad judgement, and are paranoid. Anything else would be fucking naive.
What would constitute a "fair percentage", and on what would that percentage be based?

Your paranoia?
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What would constitute a "fair percentage", and on what would that percentage be based?

Your paranoia?
Common sense....like that at least 10% of the worlds population belong in prison.
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Common sense....like that at least 10% of the worlds population belong in prison.
I would revised that to less than 2%, if it weren't for the War on Drugs.
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Common sense....like that at least 10% of the worlds population belong in prison.
What is common to one person may not be common to another.

Do you have any actual data to base your tarrational rantings on, or is it just the fact that you're afraid of guns?
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This stuff is only getting more and more confusing. Are you talking about a Florida law here? Because it sounded from Eric and Steve like it was justified (all over the country) to shot people whos intent merely is to cause you bodily harm.
So in your mind if they only PLAN to beat the shit out of you, or rape you, you should just sit there and take it?

If thats how you wish to live your life, that is your choice. It is not how I choose to live mine. I have made it very clear that the laws in the state of Texas allow me to use deadly force if i deem it necessary to stop a threat. That the criminal may only mean to hurt me and not kill me is irrelevant.
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What is common to one person may not be common to another.

Do you have any actual data to base your tarrational rantings on, or is it just the fact that you're afraid of guns?
Im not afraid of guns - I have a revolver myself (altough its broken now) and a rifle too. I have used shotguns both for fun and hunting since age 13.

What I said was in response to Matt who automatically assumed that almost all permit holders would do anything possible to de-escelate a potential dangerous sitouation, which I find to be extremely naive at best.
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So in your mind if they only PLAN to beat the shit out of you, or rape you, you should just sit there and take it?
No fucking way in hell! I already made it clear that I would shoot in such a sitouation too, unlike most other danes I reckon.

If I felt the need for it I would carry a firearm on me in public even though its highly illegal.
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Im not afraid of guns - I have a revolver myself (altough its broken now) and a rifle too. I have used shotguns both for fun and hunting since age 13.

What I said was in response to Matt who automatically assumed that almost all permit holders would do anything possible to de-escelate a potential dangerous sitouation, which I find to be extremely naive at best.
Yet it would appear as though you refuse to base your opinion that 10% of gun owners probably shouldn't be carrying on anything other than your own paranoia...
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What kinda gun did you shoot those two monkeys with and why dont you have a permit anymore?
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What kinda gun did you shoot those two monkeys with and why dont you have a permit anymore?
Whom are you addressing?

I know of nobody here who has mentioned shooting two monkeys and has lost his permit to carry a concealed weapon.
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Whom are you addressing?

I know of nobody here who has mentioned shooting two monkeys and has lost his permit to carry a concealed weapon.
I was adressing Steve, and I was referring to his assailants that night, obviously.
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