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View Poll Results: Do You Regularly Carry A Firearm?
Yes 47 29.94%
No 110 70.06%
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Old 02-20-2007
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Re: Do You Carry A Gun?

I’m a bit leery about requiring firearms training classes to buy and/or carry a gun. The gun control crowd might try to do the same thing South Africa did, and severely limit the number of classes that are held, and the number of students that can attend each class.
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Old 02-21-2007
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I’m a bit leery about requiring firearms training classes to buy and/or carry a gun. The gun control crowd might try to do the same thing South Africa did, and severely limit the number of classes that are held, and the number of students that can attend each class.
Might? Did you notice what happened with the program to have airline pilots carry?

The states which require classes typically have the classes run by private enterprise. This seems to work out well.

If the government is running the classes, you can expect them to be expensive, cumbersome, and rare.
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Re: Do You Carry A Gun?

Alas, I am poor and have not been able to purchase a gun yet. Because I tend to think of them as tools rather than weapons which causes me to forget and get kicked out of bars, I also no longer carry a knife. At home, in addition to a knife collection, I have a club which stays by my bed. It is the best tool I currently have for defense. When the time comes that I can purchase a gun, I'll likely carry since I was taught from a young age to think of them as a weapon and not make the mistake I make with knives.
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Go to Prospect Street Jr and see if you have the same thoughts? Oh by the way I am no more Redneck than you are problably married to your cousin, so don't sweat my way of life! Is KC growing? I ain't been there in a year, as I used to go gambling or to Arrowhead, but down here in the Boothill, makes that a long ass drive, so I go to St Louis or the Cape!
My wife teaches at 34th & Paseo. I used to live at 37th & Warwick. I'm a regular visitor to the "hood" for myriad reasons. In fact, I'm looking at a house at 4th & Benton. Never felt a reason to be strapped. . .

I've got many friends from down your way. An attorney in Jackson, a newscaster in Cape, some other folks down in Sikeston, New Madrid, Kennett, Hayti, & Portageville. I know those haunts well. . .

BTW, I am married to my cousin. What's wrong with that?
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Alas, I am poor and have not been able to purchase a gun yet. Because I tend to think of them as tools rather than weapons which causes me to forget and get kicked out of bars, I also no longer carry a knife. At home, in addition to a knife collection, I have a club which stays by my bed. It is the best tool I currently have for defense. When the time comes that I can purchase a gun, I'll likely carry since I was taught from a young age to think of them as a weapon and not make the mistake I make with knives.
I've been to Wyoming MANY, MANY times. I can understand carrying a firearm to fend off some cantankerous wildlife, but the people are so amiable I couldn't imagine that the crime-rate is very high.
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I have used handguns on many occasions, for target shooting and in the forces.

I do not own a handgun (they are banned in the UK after a school massacre). I did not agree with the ban. You have never been allowed to carry as a civilian. In fact you cannot carry a knife at any time. My best mate had a knife in his car when he was stopped and searched by the police (brake light). He was put in jail for 2 nights and is facing a criminal charge of being in possession of an offensive weapon. Whilst I think this is mental, the law is a good one - no-one should be allowed to carry a gun/knife on their person regardless. If I carry a knife then sure enough one-day I'll come across someone with a machete

I do own an air rifle and 2 air pistols that I use for target shooting on an irregular basis.

Can I ask though, why is it that so many people posting require to have a gun/knife in their possession. Is the crime rate so bad?
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I have used handguns on many occasions, for target shooting and in the forces.

I do not own a handgun (they are banned in the UK after a school massacre). I did not agree with the ban. You have never been allowed to carry as a civilian. In fact you cannot carry a knife at any time. My best mate had a knife in his car when he was stopped and searched by the police (brake light). He was put in jail for 2 nights and is facing a criminal charge of being in possession of an offensive weapon. Whilst I think this is mental, the law is a good one - no-one should be allowed to carry a gun/knife on their person regardless.
Is it true that British police dont carry handguns?
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Thanks, but my FRIEND is not a punk, rather he's one of the best people I've ever met, and it just so happens that he grew up in the hood, and joined a gang. He'll be the first to tell you that gangs suck, but that does not make him any less hood.
You can take the boy outta' the hood, but you can't take the hood outta' the boy.

Nice to hear he's living the "clean life", but he should always be viewed with some level of suspicion...

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Well that's all well and good, but do you have the confidence that you would have the presence of mind to act with a clear mind if you felt you needed to draw your weapon to save your life?
I absolutely believe I can act with a clear mind in that situation. One should not be carrying a firearm otherwise...

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How many times have you practiced the use of your gun in a situatiion where someone tried to grab it?
It was a pretty integral part of my training. I not only had the weapon grabbed, but also did the grabbing. For every move, there is a counter-move...

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Thinking that you can adequately control a firearm is like thinking that you can overpower someone twice your size just by taking a self defense class.
Huh?

I have absolutely no doubt in my ability to adequately control my sidearm.

None...

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If your reaction with your firearm is not second nature, I would give a second thought as to how well your training has prepared you for using your gun.
Well, I'm not all too concerned with what you would give a second thought to. I am absolutely confident in my abilities with a firearm, and have been through training for escalation of force and the use of deadly force...

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On the other side of the coin, the person who has no reservations about robbing you likely has the presence of mind to keep his composure during these types of situations because they have been through them before.
Criminals are, more often than not, pussies. They rely, in large part, on the ability to "scare" their victim.

I don't scare easily...

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Would you not just draw your weapon and tell the person to get the fuck away then?
If I felt threatened enough to draw my weapon, I wouldn't say a word. I would draw my weapon and fire. Like I said earlier, once I make the determination to draw my weapon, the decision as to whether or not it's going to be fired has already been made...

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You wouldn't be in danger if you were more than an arm's reach away right?
I suppose the person could try to throw a rock at me...

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Well I guess if you could shoot them I certainly would not say that someone who got caught with their hand in the cookie jar was treated unfairly...
I'm not even sure what that means...
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When I draw my weapon, I've already come to terms with the fact that there are two rounds, at a minimum, leaving that gun not long after I draw it. Period. If that wasn't the case, it would remain holstered...


Oooh, Steve, all your tough-guy macho gun talk gets me so hot. . .
Someone who carries a weapon, and is unwilling to fire it, shouldn't be carrying a gun...
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You have a serious problem. What on earth are you out doing that you think you need a pistol shoved down your pants?
It's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it...
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Is it true that British police dont carry handguns?
Yes and no. The general duties police officer doesn't routinely carry any firearms at all. There are specially armed patrols in some forces (notably the Metropolitan Police in London). In Northern Ireland (part of Britain) all police carry firearms on duty (they used to prohibit women officers but I think they carry now). Scottish police are generally unarmed, but I believe they have armed units.
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If the government is running the classes, you can expect them to be expensive, cumbersome, and rare.
The Ada County Sheriff in Boise, Idaho offers classes, and I believe they are free. But you don't have to take them, you just have to prove that you have had firearms training. This includes, but is not exclusive to: military service (DD214), hunters safety classes, and private concealed carry or defensive shooting lessons, and there are plenty of instructors. Then you pay your fees (about $56 dollars), and wait approximately 90 days for the background check, etc. But the class the sheriff's office offers is free (I think) and does not even involve handling an acutal firearm!

My wife and I are going to get CCW permits, because we camp a lot, and it would be easier when doing so to keep a firearm in the glove box than locked up in the back of our vehicle. Keeping a gun in your glove compartment is considered a concealed weapon, hence the need for a permit. So my wife is going to take the Sheriff's class, and I am just going to show them my army discharge papers.
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Can I ask though, why is it that so many people posting require to have a gun/knife in their possession. Is the crime rate so bad?

I carry a knife on me at all times, but that is just because they are so handy. It's not the crime rate, it's convenience.

What I find funny is how civilised we have become in such a short time. Hard to believe that a mere three hundred years ago people (men and women) carried a knife on their person at all times. Odd, that now we find someone who regularly carries one uncommon.
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The Ada County Sheriff in Boise, Idaho offers classes, and I believe they are free. But you don't have to take them, you just have to prove that you have had firearms training. This includes, but is not exclusive to: military service (DD214), hunters safety classes, and private concealed carry or defensive shooting lessons, and there are plenty of instructors. Then you pay your fees (about $56 dollars), and wait approximately 90 days for the background check, etc. But the class the sheriff's office offers is free (I think) and does not even involve handling an acutal firearm!

My wife and I are going to get CCW permits, because we camp a lot, and it would be easier when doing so to keep a firearm in the glove box than locked up in the back of our vehicle. Keeping a gun in your glove compartment is considered a concealed weapon, hence the need for a permit. So my wife is going to take the Sheriff's class, and I am just going to show them my army discharge papers.
Odd post for an anarchist! Idaho is a great place. I could tell some stories about Mountain Home!!!!
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It is an odd post for an anarchist. But I'm an odd anarchist, so it fits. In my youth, I would not have bothered with a permit, but now I'm married to someone who is a bean-counter, not an anarchist. So I have to cross my eyes and dot my tees now, if you know what I mean.

And I have clients in Mountain Home, and have done a lot of boating in that area, so I know what you mean.
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