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Re: Ho hum, another day, another two mass shootings in the US...
Interesting to note that this latest mass shooting was carried out by a Bosnian Muslim.
deseretnews.com | Police identify gunman as 18-year-old Bosnian We'll continue seeing rampaging Muslims folks. Yeah, we need better gun control laws. So all the law abiding citizens will be unarmed and harmless when another Muslim decides to kill as many "infidels" as possible on the way to see Allah. |
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The difference between the U.S. & Canada goes right back to our beginnings. Ours is a nation born of violence; Canada is a nation born of paperwork.
I've lived in El Salvador. I assure you, the murder rates in the streets of San Salvador are worse, per capita, than any American city. The main culprits?: -easy access to weapons -high levels of poverty -high levels of unemployment -a sense of helplessness -drugs -gangs (surely you've heard of MS 13) -glorification of violence (nearly everything on TV in El Salvador is American shows dubbed into Spanish) -a civil war that displaced 20% of the population for most of the 1980s & some of the early 1990s; these people largely wound up in Los Angeles (but also Houston, San Diego, Washington, DC, etc.) where they learned Americanized-style gang warfare, which they've transplanted back to El Salvador El Salvador is a nation recently reborn of violence. Managua & Guatemala City see similar problems. Colon in Panama and Bogota & Medellin are also horrible places to live/visit due to the levels of violence. The common problems between all of them: -easy access to weapons -lax (or non-existent) weapon laws -many of the things I've listed above I don't know that anyone has a ready-made answer. Surely, it is a complex issue. But if one examines different nations & different cultures & look at the underlying themes, a pattern does emerge. In a neophyte sort of fashion, I've attempted to lay out some possible culprits w/o pretending to be right. . .
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Re: Ho hum, another day, another two mass shootings in the US...
Here's an interesting news item that might point to another possible sorce of the violence in this nation.
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Out of curiosity, why do you think a revolver or pump action gun is somehow less dangerous than a semi-auto? Matt
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Although I agree with and support the right to own and bear arms I do think that right should be limited to weapons that are not considered weapons of war. If that kid in Salt Lake could do what he did without a semi- auto how much carnage do you think he could have done with a semi or full auto weapon? Gem
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Re: Ho hum, another day, another two mass shootings in the US...
Full auto is a red herring. There are very few lawfully owned fully automatic weapons, and not one owned by a civilian has ever been used in a crime.
As far as semi-auto goes, it's not that much faster that a pump or revolver. In point of fact, the present world-record holder for speed shooting did it with a revolver. As far as reloads go, a trained shooter with speedloaders can be just as quick as an auto user changing magazines. Matt
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Of course, since you want use hypotheticals to justify your position, consider how much LESS damage he would have caused if he wasnt the only one armed.
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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete. Last edited by EricOKC; 02-15-2007 at 09:57 AM. |
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Re: Ho hum, another day, another two mass shootings in the US...
Actually, I use a couple of semi-automatics, the SKS being my favorite. When I have the banana clip on, I assure you it fires much faster than any revolver. Of course, I've not spent my life training to be Doc Holliday. . .
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Sure it can happen anywhere, but what other nation has these sort of incidents anywhere even approaching the frequency that we do?
It is a given that there will be insane individuals anywhere, but why are there more here? |
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Re: Ho hum, another day, another two mass shootings in the US...
There arent, but it spread like rings in the water when it happens and becomes a trend. Obviously the easy access to descent firearms makes it much easier for the psychos.
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