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View Poll Results: Which better describes you
I am a gun owner and was raised in household where one or more family members were gun owners. 52 67.53%
I am a gun owner, but was raised in a household where there were no gun owners. 25 32.47%
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Certainly not from any of your posts, how could I?
You have nothing do you? Just baseless apsersions.
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You have nothing do you? Just baseless apsersions.


Baseless aspersions, damn that’s a funny one.

Who writes your material? They ought to go pro.
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So... you support liberty, but feel empowered to deprive people of theirs when they disagree with you?

Look. This country was founded upon several principles. One of the most important was the "right to bear arms."

The founding fathers wrote much on the topic, for good reason. The founding fathers knew that the best last defense against tyranny in government was an armed populace.

If you do not support the founding document of this nation, then how can you deserve to be a citizen of that nation?

Also, i dind't say I wanted to strip citizenship from these people, I DO NOT want to do that, I am just saying they don't deserve citizenship. I have met people who don't deserve to be parents, but I do not want to take their kids away form them. They are free to be bad parents if they want to be, just like others are free to be anti-American, if they want to be.

It's funny. Just a short time ago we were called unpatriotic for not supporting the IRAQ invasion. Now, I never hear anyone called unpatriotic for not supporting our occupation of Iraq. Funny huh?

What is even funnier is the fact that the US is not supposed to have a standing army, as we were warned about this by the founding fathers, but of course, the founding fathers writings are no longer taught in schools and few Americans can even tell me which founding fathers warned us about standing armies.

Jefferson, writing on the dnagers of banking, needed something that was very dangerous to compare to the danger posed by the banks. What did he chose to emphasize how dangerous the banks are to liberty?

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Yep, you guessed it, standing armies.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not so foolish to think we can go back in time and get rid of our standing army, it is way too late for that. I am also willing to admit that I am glad we developed a standing army, for if we hadn't, we would never have spent the money on R&D to become the only superpower in the world. If some other nation had taken over this advantage, we might all be speaking another language.

Still, it would be nice if the American people were at least familiar with what the founding fathers wrote and what people like IKE said in his farewell address.

But alas, ignorance is bliss.
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Look. This country was founded upon several principles. One of the most important was the "right to bear arms."

The founding fathers wrote much on the topic, for good reason. The founding fathers knew that the best last defense against tyranny in government was an armed populace.

If you do not support the founding document of this nation, then how can you deserve to be a citizen of that nation?

Also, i dind't say I wanted to strip citizenship from these people, I DO NOT want to do that, I am just saying they don't deserve citizenship. I have met people who don't deserve to be parents, but I do not want to take their kids away form them. They are free to be bad parents if they want to be, just like others are free to be anti-American, if they want to be.
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It's funny. Just a short time ago we were called unpatriotic for not supporting the IRAQ invasion. Now, I never hear anyone called unpatriotic for not supporting our occupation of Iraq. Funny huh?
That’s because politicians make mistakes and do things for less than noble reasons. The luxury of hindsight (although the case you are talking about had many “unpatriotically” disagree at the outset) allows us to revisit certain decisions and amend them if necessary.
Interesting you compare this with a law that has now had 200 years of hindsight.

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What is even funnier is the fact that the US is not supposed to have a standing army, as we were warned about this by the founding fathers, but of course, the founding fathers writings are no longer taught in schools and few Americans can even tell me which founding fathers warned us about standing armies.

Jefferson, writing on the dangers of banking, needed something that was very dangerous to compare to the danger posed by the banks. What did he chose to emphasize how dangerous the banks are to liberty?

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Yep, you guessed it, standing armies.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not so foolish to think we can go back in time and get rid of our standing army, it is way too late for that. I am also willing to admit that I am glad we developed a standing army, for if we hadn't, we would never have spent the money on R&D to become the only superpower in the world. If some other nation had taken over this advantage, we might all be speaking another language.
And what is hilarious is how selective you can be with which parts of the sacred document are sacrosanct and which aren’t. All based upon your desire to own guns of course.

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Still, it would be nice if the American people were at least familiar with what the founding fathers wrote and what people like IKE said in his farewell address.
But alas, ignorance is bliss.
Actually blind (although selectively hypocritical in your case) adherence to doctrine and dogma allows ignorance to flourish unfettered.
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Re: A poll for gun owners only

I grew up in a home with several guns in it. Owned my own rifle from the time I was around six or seven, until it "disappeared" during my parents' divorce. Haven't managed to claim possession of another firearm since, but I intend to in short order. (Still keep several smallswords and fighting knives within casual reach in my home.)

First time I fired a weapon, I was three or four years old. My uncle let me prop it up on his shoulder-- and it gave me a black eye anyway.
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Grew up in a house that had a few of them. I have always had some. Why? Some for hunting, some for target practice, and some because I have read the Federalist Papers and understand the importance of owning them.
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I’m sort of neutral on the whole gun ownership issue. I don’t own a gun and don’t feel a need to. But I also don’t see a problem with responsible individuals having the right to own a gun. I do, however, wonder what makes the right of ownership such an important issue for some. One seemingly logical explanation would be that they grew up around someone who owned guns. So I thought I’d test that theory here.

Feel free to comment.
My dad owned a .38 revolver, but I can't remember him ever going to a range or using it for anything. It just sat in his drawer waiting for someone to break in. He wasn't a hunter either.

On the other hand, I own quite a few firearms and practice with them regularly.
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Re: A poll for gun owners only

Wow, I forgot all about this thread.

I still don't own any guns. My wife won't let me.

Seriously, my father-in-law has an arsenal, so if I get the urge to blast at shit, I just go over to his place.
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A well regulated body of armed citizenry, being necessary to the preservation of our freedom, the national government shall provide every law-abiding white citizen a full-auto M-16 and 1000 rounds of ammunition. Thank you very much.
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My family hunts. So my dad has a rifle or two, and one shotgun. I competed a few years.

Wouldn't use a Sauer 200 STR for self-defense, though, so I'm not sure if this counts. Strictly for competitions.
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Look. This country was founded upon several principles. One of the most important was the "right to bear arms."

The founding fathers wrote much on the topic, for good reason. The founding fathers knew that the best last defense against tyranny in government was an armed populace.

If you do not support the founding document of this nation, then how can you deserve to be a citizen of that nation?

Also, i dind't say I wanted to strip citizenship from these people, I DO NOT want to do that, I am just saying they don't deserve citizenship. I have met people who don't deserve to be parents, but I do not want to take their kids away form them. They are free to be bad parents if they want to be, just like others are free to be anti-American, if they want to be.

It's funny. Just a short time ago we were called unpatriotic for not supporting the IRAQ invasion. Now, I never hear anyone called unpatriotic for not supporting our occupation of Iraq. Funny huh?

What is even funnier is the fact that the US is not supposed to have a standing army, as we were warned about this by the founding fathers, but of course, the founding fathers writings are no longer taught in schools and few Americans can even tell me which founding fathers warned us about standing armies.

Jefferson, writing on the dnagers of banking, needed something that was very dangerous to compare to the danger posed by the banks. What did he chose to emphasize how dangerous the banks are to liberty?

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale."

Yep, you guessed it, standing armies.

Now don't get me wrong. I am not so foolish to think we can go back in time and get rid of our standing army, it is way too late for that. I am also willing to admit that I am glad we developed a standing army, for if we hadn't, we would never have spent the money on R&D to become the only superpower in the world. If some other nation had taken over this advantage, we might all be speaking another language.

Still, it would be nice if the American people were at least familiar with what the founding fathers wrote and what people like IKE said in his farewell address.

But alas, ignorance is bliss.
Very well said.

It's unfortunate that much of America relies on that last statement of yours.
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A well regulated body of armed citizenry, being necessary to the preservation of our freedom, the national government shall provide every law-abiding white citizen a full-auto M-16 and 1000 rounds of ammunition. Thank you very much.
Yep, that shit has been long in need of an update.
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Yep, that shit has been long in need of an update.
Feel free to move here, become a citizen and then work towards amending it. Until then, please, do us and yourself a favor and concern yourself with your local politics rather than ours. I, and most other Americans, have had it with sanctimonious, ill-informed foreigners critiquing our internal politics.
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Feel free to move here, become a citizen and then work towards amending it. Until then, please, do us and yourself a favor and concern yourself with your local politics rather than ours. I, and most other Americans, have had it with sanctimonious, ill-informed foreigners critiquing our internal politics.
Although we do welcome the absolute comic relief when they whine.

That's kinda' funny...
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My Dad, a WWII marine corps veteran, only had two pistols and a .22 rifle while my older brother had three rifles and two shotguns.

My three other brothers don't own one gun between them.

At last count, I think I'm fairly sure I have 32 firearms. Probably. I call it the John Wayne Arsenal of Freedom.

Is there a thread around here where folks post pics of their guns?
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