The way you dismiss a poster's comments for being off topic, then go on to make comments that have nothing whatsoever to do with the thread topic is truly bizarre.

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Gee so is what you’re saying that we are duped into caring more about gun related deaths because we mistakenly think 18 and 19 year olds are kids and therefore since they aren’t we should really be giving a shit!

Edit; this was not what you were saying at all was it? It is someone else’s opinion cut and pasted.
Yes I am sure those parent of the kids needlessly killed while attending school would be able to dismiss it as easily as you (whoever wrote this crap) can.
And while adolescents are taking part in drug deals and petty criminal behaviour (probably no more or less than many other countries) would it not be better for this to not involve firearms. Not all kids who go off the rails during this period necessarily end up hardened criminals.

Someone dies by suicide in the United States every 17 minutes, for a total each year of more than 30,000. 57 percent of those who kill themselves do so with a gun. This group includes about 60 percent of suicides of persons aged 25 years or under and 70 percent of those aged 26 or older.

http://psychservices.psychiatryonlin.../full/52/8/999

2001 suicides by gun total 16,800 of which 1,800 were under 20 and the rest over 20.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htm

There isn’t anything I can see that supports your notion that “Older people's gun deaths are most likely to be suicides” and even if there was so what?

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5322a2.htm




Almost any other method leaves far more chance of survival. Most other forms are more difficult to engage or take more preparation. All of this allows more time and chance for intervention of some kind that may result in the life being saved.
Well that is a general dismissal. Billions are spent on all of those things you (whoever) outlined. Gun registration and licensing will not necessarily have a huge impact here. The removal of the guns however would and that would not cost much at all.
Hey I clicked. Nothing. Nice cut and paste!

RULE I: ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
RULE II: NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO DESTROY
RULE III: KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
RULE IV: BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET

Thanks for the laugh!

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

No its called an analogy. I used it to highlight my point.

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

lol roger that!

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

Nothing wrong with cut/paste facts.

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"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves." ~ Lord Byron

Thats it?!

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

Oh, now I see. When you do it, it's an analogy. When anyone else does it, it's a topic for another discussion.

I suppose that make as much sense as you typically do.

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Things people ask you in bed? I don't know, help me out here...

Something guys say to you at the truck stop?

A question your wife asked on the honeymoon?

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Actually, the real answer is that these kinds of deaths are on the decline in our country and on the rise in europe and your country.

But you don't see any correlation, so what's the point in discussing it with you?

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"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves." ~ Lord Byron

Is there another language I should use to help you out?

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

So you kind of skimmed over this and missed a few more subtle points huh? -

Australian Bureau of Statistics.

NUMBER OF VICTIMS

Compared to 2006, the number of victims recorded by Australian state and territory police agencies in 2007 decreased for manslaughter, murder, blackmail/extortion, motor vehicle theft, unlawful entry with intent and other theft (table 1). The offence categories recording the largest declines were manslaughter (down 28%) and murder (down 10%). Conversely, there was an increase in the number of victims of robbery (up 4%).

VICTIMISATION RATE

In 2007, the Australian victimisation rates for selected personal offence categories were:
Murder, 1.2 victims per 100,000 persons, down from 1.4 victims in 2006
Attempted murder, 1.2 victims per 100,000 persons, no change from 2006
Kidnapping/abduction, 3.5 victims per 100,000 persons, no change from 2006
Robbery, 86 victims per 100,000 persons, up from 84 victims in 2006
Blackmail/extortion, 2.0 victims per 100,000 persons, down from 2.1 victims in 2006 (table 1)
http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@....007&num=&view=

Is that better?

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An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

It wouldn't matter, you'd be equally irrational in any language.

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Both parents were pretty anti-gun in the home, Mom especially. Dad never took me shooting or hunting, but didn't care that I took it up with my friends in middle school {though Mom hated our BB gun wars and the welts I got from them }

I started getting more 'into it' after having children of my own, and realizing that some lives are worth protecting to the best of one's ability.

Lots of guns when I was a kid, mostly pistols. All the guns I currently own are pistols.

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But we could save all the oil that they're talking about getting off drilling – if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You'd actually save just as much! -Barack the Moron

Now that's just silly.

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"Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves." ~ Lord Byron

Someone read the title of this thread to crisis.
Just another example why crisis is called crisis.

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