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Old 06-19-2007
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More Feel-Good Illegal Alien Antics...

This is fabulous. Illegal aliens are now starting forest fires to avoid being arrested/detained/deported: Illegal Alien Scumbags Start Forest Fires.

It's time we just start opening up on these fuckers. This is sickening...
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Yes. Murdering is always the solution!
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Yes. Murdering is always the solution!
Do you care to address the issue of illegal scumbag aliens setting fires in national forests to evade the Border Patrol, or are you just going to sit there and verbally masturbate over the fact that I don't have a problem with killing them?

What do you think about what the illegal scumbag aliens are doing?
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No mention of the $200MM in marijuana smuggling? Maybe it's the smugglers, not the aliens.

So, lets shoot all the pot smokers. Isn't that the solution?
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No mention of the $200MM in marijuana smuggling? Maybe it's the smugglers, not the aliens.

So, lets shoot all the pot smokers. Isn't that the solution?
Would you be so kind as to explain why it is wrong to shoot an illegal alien caught in the act of illegally crossing the border, so as to enter our country with criminal intent, who refuses to stop when legitimate US citizens, explicitly tasked and charged with protecting the US borders, order him to do so?
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Would you be so kind as to explain why it is wrong to shoot an illegal alien caught in the act of illegally crossing the border, so as to enter our country with criminal intent, who refuses to stop when legitimate US citizens, explicitly tasked and charged with protecting the US borders, order him to do so?
Certainly, as soon as you substantiate this claim.
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Certainly, as soon as you substantiate this claim.
What claim? I'm asking you why you think its wrong to shoot an illegal alien. In the process of asking the question, i merely pointed out all that not only are laws being broken when they come in, but laws continue to be broken while they are here. That is not a claim my friend - it is fact.

So again - what claim?
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Eric, Pram is Co-Captain of the USPOL Varisty Dodgeball Team.

You'll never get a straight answer out of him...
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What claim? I'm asking you why you think its wrong to shoot an illegal alien. In the process of asking the question, i merely pointed out all that not only are laws being broken when they come in, but laws continue to be broken while they are here. That is not a claim my friend - it is fact.

So again - what claim?
I thought that you were claiming that I was somehow against police officers doing their jobs. If I misunderstood, I apologize.

Do I think that crossing the border illegally warrants deadly force? No. I crossed the border between France and Spain once by foot; I could have been taken as doing so illegally. It'd sucked to have been shot.

While I also admit that there are some individuals who cross the border seeking to perform criminal activity (in the more commonly accepted meaning - i.e. committing crimes against people or property), I also hold that there are many of those individuals who seek nothing more than a better life for themselves or their families; nigh impossible to find at home. Should they be killed for that? IMHO, no. If an individual threatens a police officer or other individual with harm, can deadly force be warranted? Absolutely. Should they be shot in the back if attempting to run, but not suspected of any crime other than border crossing? I say no.

Does that answer your question directly?
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This is fabulous. Illegal aliens are now starting forest fires to avoid being arrested/detained/deported: Illegal Alien Scumbags Start Forest Fires.

It's time we just start opening up on these fuckers. This is sickening...
As long as Johnny Sutton continues to be a Federal Prosecutor, our border agents can't do their job. Sutton needs to be in jail. He is the Mike Nifong to our Border Patrol and personally, I believe he has Bush's blessing.
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Would you be so kind as to explain why it is wrong to shoot an illegal alien caught in the act of illegally crossing the border, so as to enter our country with criminal intent, who refuses to stop when legitimate US citizens, explicitly tasked and charged with protecting the US borders, order him to do so?
Because the use of deadly force is restricted to situations where there is a clear and present danger to the life of the officer or to another.
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As long as Johnny Sutton continues to be a Federal Prosecutor, our border agents can't do their job. Sutton needs to be in jail. He is the Mike Nifong to our Border Patrol and personally, I believe he has Bush's blessing.
I agree, and it's sad.

Bush has been an utter failure with regard to the border...
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Because the use of deadly force is restricted to situations where there is a clear and present danger to the life of the officer or to another.
Did you read the piece I linked to?

Illegal scumbag aliens are lighting fires under manned look-out posts. That, to me, presents a very clear threat to the officers manning them...
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Re: More Feel-Good Illegal Alien Antics...

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This is fabulous. Illegal aliens are now starting forest fires to avoid being arrested/detained/deported: Illegal Alien Scumbags Start Forest Fires.

It's time we just start opening up on these fuckers. This is sickening...
Fight fire with fire....

Flamethrower those bastards.
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Wouldn't that make the forest fires worse?
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