Traveler, do you by chance have a snake phobia?

I know that I'd be tempted to shoot a tarantula if it were near me....

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Why is it we are trying to make out that a Police Officer should be perfect yet we vote in known incompetents and criminals into public office?
A Police Officer is a human being and therefore is subject to being imperfect. To expect perfection is completely wrong. To expect a higher degree of skill is fine. There is a difference.

Also from readin both the article and these responses the location of the child was 200yds/600 feet away and not in plain sight. At that distance a bullets trajectory can alter unpredicatably based on wind and even a single leaf on a tree. How far down range do you search and how long? Should I walk a mile down while I have a hysterical homeowner on me about getting rid of the snake? What is reasonable?

Finally again. If it is found that he acted rashly or out of the scope of his duties then he should be charged and tried.

Innocent UNTIL proven Guilty.

Most of you seem ready to hang him without any more information than what is in the article.

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They introduced an even bigger threat into the equation: stray bullets in an area that had civilians present. That is way worse than a snake in a tree.

If they did, they should've waited until they arrived before doing anything. If they didn't, why not?

I saw no mention of it. Plus, if the snake isn't going to be bothered by pepper spray, I'd say it's a good bet that it's not going to be bothered to slither out of the tree and attack someone.


Well, that is an incredibly bad judgement call. Anyone who makes that decision should not be in the roll of a law enforcement officer. And no, it couldn't have been a last resort. I can think of a trillion other ways to get a snake out of a tree before shooting at it.

I meant in nature. There are lots of uncontained, hissing snakes around, it'd be ridiculous to go around shooting them all. That's what snakes do, they wander about freely and hiss at crap. I'm not sure why this particular snake needed to be shot at, while the hundreds of millions of other hissing wild snakes are simply avoided.

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I sense that it was racially motivated. Was it a black snake?








(This is my lame attempt at a joke - please take it as just that. Thank you)

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Although that would be so cool.

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Lol. Don't worry, snake jokes are going to be the next big thing, I'm sure.

Yea, it would. If the situation was "Cop kills 5 year old while trying to remove hornet's nest with 10 tons of TNT", I'd certainly have to re-evaluate my views of the cop.

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The officer should be investigated and reprimanded if neglect is proven. He was a professional and should have known better…..It was a snake, not some street shootout !

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Shit that was good.

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Many times I believe Americans will have to take back the country and start a new government.

So what? Since when does the demand of a homeowner override common sense and good judgment? Since when do the cops have to follow every little demand?

Would you be OK with it had the cop decided to torch the tree or use explosives?

The police are not there to perform pest control duties.
No, but considering it was in a tree, and there are few if any poisonous snakes which even climb trees, and fewer still which live in OK, its a safe bet it was nothing more than a common garden or tree snake - both of which are harmless. I promise you my friend, there are NO circumstances under which this fool's actions were justifiable or legally defensible.

I live about 30 miles from Noble my friend. The only snakes you've got to concern yourself with around here are the harmless sort. Sure, there are copperheads near the water and the occasional rattler, but not in a suburban neighborhood.

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Most LEO's I know carry either 9mm or .40 cal, neither or which will have a round stopped by a snake, regardless of how big the snake is...

And since those brain surgeons failed, what they should've done is allow someone who actually knew what the fuck they were doing to come out and get the snake down...

I think it was nothing more than the property owner not wanting the snake there. Well, tough shit, that's not enough to warrant shooting at it...

Oh...

My...

God...

If he was such a fucking crack shot, what was behind the tree wouldn't have been any great concern. But, since it's obvious the idiot couldn't hit water if he fell out of a fuckin' boat, he really should've called a professional...

If he was lacking in experience and training, he never should've unholstered his weapon.

You seem to be a big fan of "maybe".

Let me give you something which doesn't need a "maybe". If the dumb-fuck would've left his weapon holstered, the little boy would be alive right now...

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When it comes to the use of deadly force, which is what's used ANYTIME an officer fires his weapon and isn't on a range, there is zero room for error. Period.

He'd better fucking do it right, and it's pretty fucking clear this moron didn't...

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Makes me wonder if there's an election coming up for whatever municipality getting the Noble tax revenue with an incumbent running or maybe their LE has way too much staff. That's trying to understand how normally stretched out LE can respond to snake in tree calls in Oklahoma with at least one really dumb cop.

Noble's a small town. It was probably the most excitement he had all year. About the only thing they do in Noble is catch college kids fucking in the back seat of a car somewhere.

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Why not use a pellet rifle? machete? some other tool appropriate for the situation?

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Not sure how they are going to make a case against the officer who did not fire the fatal shot.

But it seems plain that there was absolutely no justification for shooting at this non-poisonous snake in a birdhouse.

Matt

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