It is then exactly what I suspected.

Thanks for the clarification.

Agreed. I would much rather have open carry than concealed carry.

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Wow... Russell's a real dickhead. Someone should've punched that stupid fucker in the neck...

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Crisis
“Gee it must make it easier for people who want to misuses guns if they can go around wearing them in public.”

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“Why do you assume that just because someone owns and carries a weapon that he will misuse it?”

Please make the connection.

You do not understand what a fact is. It is however your opinion and you are entitled to that.

As I said, the cop may legally be out of line but I sympathise with his sentiments.

Legally irrelevant but again I find the rationale bizarre.

And the majority or your nation does not adopt open carry either. And in a philosophical discussion comparisons with the rest of the world where conditions are largely similar are not irrelevant when discussing rationale or the logic. By your logic any bizarre law is simply justifiable because of its existence.

You are not all different. Just some. And you have to get used to the fact that when I discuss these issues I am doing it objectively. I am not interested in what any of your states or your county adopts. I am discussing the rationale of the decision. You wish to avoid that obviously. Is it because you can’t offer any rationale?

you insist that you are interested in examining rational, yet when the rationale has been presented to you by multiple posters in multiple gun threads you rarely address it or act as if it is not worthy (despite centuries of common law legal precedence originating in Europe also backing the rationale up).

I don't mean this as a personal attack, however this is common among gun control supporters who have little knowledge or respect for firearms.

There is nothing remotely brave about baiting Police in that way when you know they can not respond or you will at worst perhaps be fined.

You made a reasonable go at trying to explain the background behind Russel’s unnecessary display. You know his background obviously. You do not know the officers background or how many times he has responded to illegal shootings. Or any of the other distasteful activities Police must do in these circumstances. None of this may excuse the officer for acting in conflict with the law but as you point out there is usually two sides to a story.


It depends on your definition of baiting. There is a level of provocation in what you do and a level of expectation of some responses as you yourself have stated “If that freaks them out, they will stop one of us” , “If the people inside the meeting see the stop, they will not cower but will go to the scene!”, “Some of our participants carry video cameras.”
Yes suppose it is?
But suppose “Open carry is a bad idea because it just shows criminals where your gun is, and they might steal it”. The criminal may not really care about your more esoteric agendas. A simple king hit from behind and he has a gun easy and for free. Could this not happen?

What makes open carry such an important part of freedom?

So a group of people whose ancestors were originally kidnapped and used as slaves, had their more recent ancestors emancipated and still considered less than human, fighting for nothing more that to be considered such and equal to white men is some kind of analogy to a group of people wanting to wear side arms? I would consider that an insult to the African Americans. These guys were beaten and killed in their struggle to be considered equal. Russel and indeed yourself stood there in the knowledge he had total impunity.

Further may I enquire as to what empirical evidence you have to support this claim?

“Open carry is an essential tool for citizens, as it puts fear into the hearts of harmful criminals...reminding them New Hampshire is a dangerous place to try and harm others.”

Well present it to me here. What is this rationale?

People carrying out in the open are punks and putzes. One thing is to carry concealed, but open carry scares woman and children.

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You don't have a clue what you're talking about. The only thing a cop in the US has to do to get away with muder is claim that it was done according to police procedure.

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--Hunter S. Thompson

Which is very easy for them to do...

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It all comes down to this on election day: Are you a racist, or do you look down on spastics?

In the not too distant past, carrying concealed was considered the act of a man with nefarious intent. Carrying openly was no cause for concern.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

You cannot be that dense and be able to go out in public unsupervised.

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In case you were wondering, yes, there really ARE more idiots these days....technology has made natural selection obsolete.

I am sure you are right.

Have you got anything intelligent to add to the discussion?

Up to our same old tricks, I see.

People, please don't feed the trolls. It only encourages them.

crisis, don't you have an Australian gun control site you can troll?

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