its not a bumbersticker its reality,. unlike you i will assume i do not get my opinion from a website that pushes talking points

i got mine from meeting, capturring, talking and in some instances killing these pieces of shit , and in doing so saw that what i believed to be a problem that was trumped up , that being terrorism, was actually true, and actually there were a shit load of fuckheads out there training, and hoping to get the chance to kill me , my family my neighbors etc......

its not buying it is experiencing,. but as i said i will assume you can continue to go to moveon.org and get your head filled with your opinion

yea well, cart before the horse...what “harm” is he doing to us exactly, comparably to what can be done by those seeking to harm us? ..and after the next attack, and one will slip though sooner or later, we'll see who is doing the "most" harm.......then it will be 'he/she didn't do enough to protect us' or whomever occupies the WH, dem or rep......

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

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Oh I see...

... it's me making "assumptions," Rakkasan? Wanna reread what you just said and try that one again? Frankly Rakkasan, I'm not all that enthralled with you as a source for what other people think, I'll let them speak for themselves, whether you like it or not.

Further on Rakkasan, you quite clearly have no clue as to what I think, why I think it, where I get the information I base my thoughts on. So step right up in your blind rage and take another swing at the strawmen if you please, it's meaningless to me. After all, it's what you 28%ers do best.

The more you kill the more you enhance their recruitment and popular support. And there are far more of them than us.

Muslims - 1.2B, growing at a rate of 2.9%/yr
Americans - 300M, growth rate of .92%/yr
UK - 60M, growth rate of .28% (growth rate turns negative in 2036)

Better conjure up a viable plan.

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ya know those leaks that hurt national security by the media try and google it some time...

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I googled national security leaks and got many that the media published...


there are many not just one or 2.....

im sure you can google them simple enough ... ok there are some sources to include the new york times itself...

i wouuld think someone on this board would heard of them before john k there are 100 threads about them.

boggle why you question me when its in the news and main headlines

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Hardcore Conservative !

I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.

Passing authoritarian acts that strip us of our liberty, Iraq conflict that killed Iraqis and thousands of US troops, while increasing terrorism (Jihadist movement), wasted billions of dollars, etc...The terrorists will have to work double-time if they are to win the race to harm America. Bush is in the lead, I believe.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

You must be talking about those news stories containing important information which the citizens of this country need to know but is hidden from them by politicians. Good thing we have the press or we would never know anything at all about what w is up to.

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So umm we citizens really need to know about troop numbers etc ???

Boggle there is a point where it can cause deaths of troops ...

guess you have to be prior military or i dunno not a bush hater to get this

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Hardcore Conservative !

I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.

US occupied Lebanon?

You have to see the problem on other way around, they say so to everyone including Arabs, more liberal Arabic nation such as Morocco, Tunisia, Dubai! Europe... USA is just one of them, but USA happened to support unconditionally Israel, USA happened to make war against Iraq for reasons that was in fact lies. They hate you not because for what you are, but for what you did! Do better, they won't hate you, help the Palestinians, that will give a good image to USA in the middle east. Israel - Palestinians conflict is the root of the problem.

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Yeah, let's just have the government not tell us anything, not even when it invades or makes people disappear. Hell, some people got tortured in Abu Ghraib? Fuck 'em! Just keep it a secret since it might incite anger among the Iraqis! Right?

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

Sending troops into a war under false pretences will cause deaths of troops too. Maybe if we'd had a little more of the real truth back when this started instead of merely swallowing whatever info the white house decided to declassify, none of those troops would be dead.

You only need to value open government and detest the manipulations of cynical politicians to get this.

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Edward Gibbon

I think it's ironic that he is asking for less honesty and openness to decrease troop deaths when it is dishonesty that caused it in the first place.

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If a neocon whines about big government wealth redistribution, just ask him what he thinks about the portion of that big government that sends aid to Israel.

hmmm...you state i am a bumper sticker and a 28% but get offended that i assume like you , that you are a moveoner...

interesting

er ya we were in lebanon remember the bombing ? sure occupy is strong but it one of the reasons along with saudi that started the idiots well being idiots.....the usa has tried endlessly to fix the PLO/isreali conflict...even the savior of the universe to you european folks , bill clinton tried never happened never will really one side stops the other pours salt on the wound

That's just not true. The arab/israeli conflict is a sideshow as far as bin laden is concerned. His main beef withthe us was our infidel presence in holy arab territory.

Neither the various terrorist bands nor the leaders of the arab nations have ever done anything for the palestinian people except use them as a proxy army in their war against israel. For them to claim they hate the US because the US will not help the palestinians is both cynical and dishonest.

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A nation of slaves is always prepared to applaud the clemency of their master who, in the abuse of absolute power, does not proceed to the utmost extremes of injustice and oppression.
Edward Gibbon