So who did you vote for in the Presidential elections, and how much has he done to solve the illegal alien problem?

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Yep. Steve told me "people like you are the reason this country has the illegal scumbag alien problem it does"

and yet (I suspect) he voted twice (in 2000 and 2004) for GWB--the dude who fought hard for an amnesty plan that would've granted legal status to 8 million undocumented workers,

while moi didn't do anything.

They say actions speak louder than words

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So, counterfeiting is okay?

If someone has a documented history of criminal activity, they absolutely should be denied into this country. They've already shown a propensity to violate he laws of their own country, why should we assume they won't break ours?

And there is a mountain of evidence against him. How much do you actually know about the Arellano-Felix drug cartel? It's been big news in San Diego for years...

If we were discussing the relationship between drug related crime and the illegality of drugs, your point might mean something...

Given the options, voting for Bush was the thing to do. With respect to the topic of illegal immigration, Bush is no worse...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Well, this is certainly evidence that you don't pay attention.

I've been open about the fact that I voted, twice, for Bush...

About as much as the previous five Presidents...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

That's right; people like you are the reason people like you has the problem.

Trying to lay the cause of the problem at Bush's feet is stupid. I don't recall Clinton handling the problem, or Bush I, or Reagan, or Carter, or Ford, or Nixon, or Kennedy...

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Sayeth John Drake - 10/13/08: "OK, you're right, I admit to LYING"

Twelve million people who do not respect the laws and sovereignty of our nation should not have the right to vote in our elections and determine our laws. Lawlessness like this can not be reward or the result will be that the United States will end up looking like Mexico.

I am far more concerned about the effect that anchor babies have on this country. If a normal adult human being pulls a gun out, points it at their foot, and proceeds to intentionally shoot themself in said foot who's fault is it? We can talk about changing current immigration laws. We can talk about changing who we let into the country. We can talk about changing how many people we let into the country. But I fail to understand how granting citizenship to people who have proven they do not respect our laws is a good idea. A good American, indeed a good person, is motivated by their emotions, but acts as their conscience and common sense dictates.

He should not be an American citizen. American law should not allow for anchor baby status.

How do you blame a baby born on US soil for "disregarding laws?"

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But it does. Anyone born on US soil is an American citizen. Just like you.

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Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

That's debatable. The 14th amendment says:

I would argue that the child of an illegal immigrant is not subject to the jurisdictions of the United States or the State government wherein they reside. Rather the illegal immigrant and their child are subject to the jurisdiction of the country that they came from.

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I don't. But neither do I believe citizenship should be granted to those who are children of illegal immigrants. It is a fallacy of U.S. Law.

Just because something is law does not mean that it is just.

Then stop voting for people like them.

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Amen! It strikes me that if people voted strictly for those who they agreed with the most, and not for those who they thought had the best chance to win, this country would be a lot different.