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Re: Good idea or American style propaganda?

I don't see what the big deal is.

It cannot be argued that terrorist attacks do not exist. They do. We know they do.

We have an "emergency plan" for earthquakes and wildfires, both of which occur with some regularity here in southern California. Yet both of those combined have killed fewer people in the last ten years here than were killed in just a few hours on 9/11.

The United States has some rather choice potential targets. Why wouldn't it be a good idea for families near these choice targets to have a contingency plans in place? Furthermore, why isn't a good idea for someone to suggest it?

All that's being suggested is that an "emergency plan" be put together for families in case of another attack. For the life of me, I can't see why anyone would think that's a bad idea, or refer to it as "propoganda"...
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I looked at my dad, started laughing, and called it American propaganda BS.

Is being prepared for a terrorist attack really up there with being ready for a natural disaster? Is this part of the fear-mongering?

Come on Crystal,

We must be prepared for any strike by Terrorists, or as GW, Will Ferrell and I like to call them: Evil Doers.
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Then I take it you are outraged by things like the Patriot Act, which suppress rights to supposedly protect us from terrorists?
Nope, I'm all for the Patriot act.
Suppressed rights?
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I don't see what the big deal is.

It cannot be argued that terrorist attacks do not exist. They do. We know they do.

We have an "emergency plan" for earthquakes and wildfires, both of which occur with some regularity here in southern California. Yet both of those combined have killed fewer people in the last ten years here than were killed in just a few hours on 9/11.

The United States has some rather choice potential targets. Why wouldn't it be a good idea for families near these choice targets to have a contingency plans in place? Furthermore, why isn't a good idea for someone to suggest it?

All that's being suggested is that an "emergency plan" be put together for families in case of another attack. For the life of me, I can't see why anyone would think that's a bad idea, or refer to it as "propoganda"...
How about the last 30 years? Last 50?
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Nope, I'm all for the Patriot act.
Suppressed rights?
So you feel that having an ad warning people about terrorism is bullshit, when at the same time you are happy to give up rights to supposedly allow Bush to save you from that same threat?
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Re: Good idea or American style propaganda?

I'm surprised some televangelist isn't peddling terrorist attack insurance with guaranteed life in the hereafter as the payout. Cash, checks and credit cards accepted.
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I'm surprised some televangelist isn't peddling terrorist attack insurance with guaranteed life in the hereafter as the payout. Cash, checks and credit cards accepted.
I think a better idea would be to guarantee life in the hereafter for US troops who die in battle.
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I think a better idea would be to guarantee life in the hereafter for US troops who die in battle.
With the preposterous signing bonuses, entry level pay/benefits higher than the private sector, free education and other enticements not doing the job, maybe they would fall for that one. Which hereafter dogma? Their choice?
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With the preposterous signing bonuses, entry level pay/benefits higher than the private sector, free education and other enticements not doing the job, maybe they would fall for that one. Which hereafter dogma? Their choice?
Sure. Not sure how well the 70 virgins (or however many) will fly, though.
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Sure. Not sure how well the 70 virgins (or however many) will fly, though.
Multiple choice would be more effective at the cannon fodder level. "Pick any three, final disposition based on heroism level at time of death".
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So you feel that having an ad warning people about terrorism is bullshit, when at the same time you are happy to give up rights to supposedly allow Bush to save you from that same threat?
No, I think the spending of money to run Terrorist Planning ads is dumb, the ads should be more along the lines of informing people how to protect/help themselves on a variety of disasters.....As I said earlier; if people had a plan for floods, tornado, hurricanes and others, What exactly would be much different in a terrorist plan? People will still need food, water, contacts and so on.

I'd comment on me giving up my rights.....As soon as I can think of one I've lost !
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No, I think the spending of money to run Terrorist Planning ads is dumb, the ads should be more along the lines of informing people how to protect/help themselves on a variety of disasters.....As I said earlier; if people had a plan for floods, tornado, hurricanes and others, What exactly would be much different in a terrorist plan? People will still need food, water, contacts and so on.
What about gas masks? Weapons? Anti-air missiles?
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I'd comment on me giving up my rights.....As soon as I can think of one I've lost !
Here are some: JS Online: Patriot Act takes away rights, lawyer says
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What about gas masks? Weapons? Anti-air missiles?
You didn't read my first post in this thread did you.

As for weapons, go buy one if you happen to one of the few without one.
Anti-Air ??????? Now you're just being silly.
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You didn't read my first post in this thread did you.

As for weapons, go buy one if you happen to one of the few without one.
Anti-Air ??????? Now you're just being silly.
Are you going to address the rest of my post?
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Are you going to address the rest of my post?
It's an article from 2003 that ended up being nothing. We lost no rights..er...let me restate that: "We honest people lost nothing".
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