I was cruising through the various "crimes and popular stories" forum when I noticed a not too surprising trend. Of the 6 most recent threads involving heineous crimes in America, all 6 of them involved states that went to Bush in the '04 presidential elections.

Why is it that states that Bush won in '04 seem to have so many terrible crimes? What is it about conservatism that drives people to do such horrible things?



West Virginia Police Uncover Rape, Torture Case : Top News Stories at Officer.com
West Virginia went to Bush in '04

Sources: New Orleans nurses offered immunity in deaths - CNN.com
Louisiana went to Bush in '04

FOXNews.com - Virginia Teen Charged With Raping, Killing Sister, Beating Toddler Niece With Sledgehammer - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
Virginia went to Bush in 'O4

Officer accused of leaving dog in hot car - Crime & Punishment - MSNBC.com
Arizona went to Bush in 'O4

FOXNews.com - Nifong Apologizes for Missteps in Duke Lacrosse 'Rape' Case, Resigns as Durham DA - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News
North Carolina went to Bush in '04

Couey guilty of murdering*9-year-old Jessica Lunsford - CNN.com
Florida went to Bush in '04

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"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

It's the same reason that people start assinine threads on Fridays -

post hoc ergo propter hoc

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Yes it is interesting and I have wondered about this before. Why are there many more cases of things like sex abuse and abortion in religious institutions/regions than there are in secular institutions/regions? Why is the drug use higher in countries which use more public spending to control it?

Somehow in many cases, the more things like sex and drugs are demonized, the larger the problems around them become. Compare the drug use in netherlands to the countries surrounding it, or the religious backgrounds of people who commit rapes.

btw I object to the way you bring the message. We could have a serious discussion about this. There is no reason to bash anything.

Clearly because any person living in a blue state is an evil moron. (Anyone wonder why our country is so divided?)

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Do you have a source for your information. The country could be so divided because of hatemongering conservatives.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

I wonder if the OP knows where Jeffrey Dahmer lived and committed his crimes.
Or where Ted Bundy first started killing.
Or Richard Angelo.
Or David Berkowitz.
Or Kenneth Alessio Bianchi and Angelo Buono, Jr.
Or William George Bonin.

To any thinking person, there is no correlation between who a state voted for and horrific crimes.

The OP, not being a member of that subset of people, doesn't comprehend this.

Matt

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I was specifically refering to the most recent threads in the Crime and popular stories forum. Please try to keep up.

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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush

"I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006

"[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004

No, you're being ludicrous again, assigning silly partisan slant to crime stories.

Matt

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Good lord, you're right! The fact that these six threads all involve heinous crime in states that voted for Bush obviously demonstrates that conservatism drives people to do horrible things!!! After anecdotal evidence such as this, one need hardly bother with such things as establishing any sort of logical connection!
Personally, I found Nifong's wrong-doings most persuasive; his mishandling of the rape case was obviously the result of conservatism in that state! Could the connection possibly be more obvious!?!

Allow me to be the first to suggest that, because these six crimes happened in states that voted for Bush, president Bush and conservatism itself must be to blame and we should all look on such things with profound mistrust and disfavor.
Curse you, Bush! You killed Bandit!

LOL Do some more research, Ajax, and you'll find that while LOUISIANA went to Bush, NEW ORLEANS DIDN'T!!! Orleans Parish went to Kerry with 77.4%.

Oh, and what's this??? Logan, WV located in Logan County ALSO went to Kerry???? Oh my!!!!

I'll give you Spotsylvania, Va. It did go to Bush.

Goodness, it seems that Durham County in NC went to Kerry with 68%!

Last but not least, seems Kerry took Miami-Dade County with 52.9%.

You've just been handed your ass on a platter, Ajax. Are you man enough to admit it?

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Totally owned - not only is his premise infantile, but he's just as misinformed as usual when it comes to the facts.

Priceless. Nearly as silly as the secret execution story......

Well done, Mrs. M!

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shoe meet mouth...

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So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
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Shit man - now that's funny!

I was thinking on the lines of immodica tedium creat insaniam

OR Qui nimium probat, nihil probat .......and Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

let's see I'm a little rusty here...he who proves too much proves nothing...I think that's right?